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Windows 7: RAM upgrade issue

19 Aug 2016   #11
WaltB32

Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium
 
 
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Hello Walt now that machine does support 4GB RAM and I don't think you can alter the memoery speeds witha BIOS thta old I stand to be corrected of course.

What I suggest you do is put in the old RAM which I am guessing the machien came with and find out the timings etc using this
Using HW Info
PART A:
You can test the volts on the PSU with HW Info HWiNFO, HWiNFO32/64 - Download < download the right bit version and close the right hand window select Sensors and scroll down to the power section where you will see what the volts are doing see my pic. In my pic the section (Nuvoton) with VBATT as a dead give away you are in the section for the rail voltages. There are other section titles and one that pops up often is ITE (sometimes the usual one for Gigabyte boards)
Now the voltage on the different rails have to be within 5% =+/- of what is required or the machine will not work properly if at all.
Limits +/-
12v = 11.4 – 12.6v
5v = 4.74 – 5.25v
3.3v = 3.135 – 3.465v
The Power good signal voltage at pin 8 on the 24 pin plug (grey cable) should be the same as the 5v rail reading/s
See this for the rail voltage info
PSUs 101: A Detailed Look Into Power Supplies (Section 2.)
The original right hand window shows the machine running and is handy for that but for looking at the components in some detail close it and use the main left hand side panel
FOR OTHER COMPONENTS
PART B:
Open each small square with + in it on the section the components are in and then click on the individual component/s (it will highlight in blue) - in the right hand side will appear all sorts of details including brands speeds and other essential info that particular device. See pic for example.

Use PART B: and scroll down the right hand side panel to find exactly what they are. See pic of mine you need only highlight the sticks to find the speeds and timings

After that I would be inclined to get just one stick - 4GB RAM or at very least a matched pair (2x2GB) because that way it avoids any discrepancies in unmatched / different brand RAM

If you want some really good advice try Tradesman at here Welcome to the G.SKILL TECH FORUM - I do like G Skill as well too but he can advise you far more than I.
I tried the program but was unable to find any voltage data.


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19 Aug 2016   #12
WaltB32

Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium
 
 

I went to CPU-Z and found some answers on the voltage and frequency. Some snaps on Word doc looks like max freq is set at 333 MHz and 1.8 volts so the new RAM won't work.


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19 Aug 2016   #13
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP
 
 

DDR2 means Double Data Rate, version 2. It means that it functions on a double frequency rate. So the clock is 333,33 MHz but the memory works a the double of the clock frequency, 667 MHz. The problem of your new memory must be related to manufacture type or latency. Try a DDR2 800. I'm quite sure it will work.
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19 Aug 2016   #14
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Walt it might need a new download because HW is usually reliable see my pic of my RAM to see how to open it out. Sorry but the wifi on vacation is pretty ordinary right where we are.

Oh and just in case ypou did it take no notice of the update notice - close it.


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19 Aug 2016   #15
WaltB32

Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium
 
 
Cmos

There is a YouTube on how the CMOS and RAM work together which says other.
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19 Aug 2016   #16
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP
 
 

CMOS or Complementary-Metal–Oxide–Semiconductor was / is used as memory to store BIOS configuration data. The BIOS program is now stored on EEPROM (Electrically Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory). The battery is used to keep CMOS BIOS information and clock after power off. Nowadays it uses a 3V coin battery (CR2032). If the clock is working fine, means that the coin battery is OK. The memory function is not affected by BIOS as memory parameters is not reconfigured on BIOS. I'm quite sure that the memory you bought is faulty or isn't compatible with your computer. Try a DDR2 800. I'm quite sure it will work.
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19 Aug 2016   #17
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

@ Megahertz07. You have stated that the CMOS battery is a CR2032 5V battery. Actually it's a CR2032 3V (3 volt) battery.

This is not meant as a criticism, but an information correction.
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19 Aug 2016   #18
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP
 
 

Ranger, you're absolutely correct. I've already correct my post. Thank you.
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20 Aug 2016   #19
WaltB32

Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
Some laptops are sensitive to the kind of memory chips in use, single side x double side, latency etc. I have just replaced 2x1G DDR2 667 on a Sony laptop with 2x2G DDR2 800 (PC6400) and it's working fine. Are you able to try 2x2G DDR2 800 (PC6400)?

I went to the computer store today and tried 2 brands of 2X2G of DDR2 800 (PC6400) and the same
issue of no booting occurred.
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20 Aug 2016   #20
WaltB32

Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
DDR2 means Double Data Rate, version 2. It means that it functions on a double frequency rate. So the clock is 333,33 MHz but the memory works a the double of the clock frequency, 667 MHz. The problem of your new memory must be related to manufacture type or latency. Try a DDR2 800. I'm quite sure it will work.

Tried the DDR2 800 today with 2 different manufactures neither worked.
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