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Windows 7: Changing ram memory, need some input.

21 Sep 2016   #1
1ntu

Windows 7 Home Basic x64
 
 
Changing ram memory, need some input.

I had RAM issue for about a month + now and i can't seem to understand it. I started having problems involving frequent BSOD when gaming. I have 1x4GB 1333Mhz ram stick which i used for 2 years now without any problems till the last month. When playing havier ram load games i get game crashes and some weird errors in games which then follow with BSOD and windows recovered from unexpected shutdown.

I then checked my system with BSOD viewer and i had two errors, both were kernel... and i knew something was serious so i reinstalled my system and deleted absolutely everything. New system worked the first day like charm, normal gaming feel was amazing once again.

The next day... same thing all over again but no errors in BSOD viewer this time. I talked with my friend and he told me how lucky i was that my ram lasted this long because i used single channel over 2x2GB dual channel. My build was mediocre since i didnt plan on playing on the highest setting in games. I bought 1x4GB so i could update in a future but i never did because i tought i was fine for a while now. Motherboard: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/H61M-P20-G3.html#hero-s...

So now i have no idea if i should get 2x2GB or 1x4GB again. In my country there is no 2x2GB deals tho so i tought of getting x2 Emmi | Emmi online shop, prodaja: racunari, laptopovi, TFT monitori, netbook i notebook ra?unari, foto oprema... | Po?etna...
or
Emmi | Emmi online shop, prodaja: racunari, laptopovi, TFT monitori, netbook i notebook ra?unari, foto oprema... | Po?etna... this one.

My question now is which option will work better for my system?
I am mainly gaming on this system. If i get the 1x4GB stick i can upgrade in future but also i will not use its full 1600Mhz potential since my mobo only supports 1600Mhz for ivy bridge CPU's and mine is not. Also i have no idea when i will be upgrading again.. so thats that. Thanks for reading this long post.


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22 Sep 2016   #2
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hello and welcome 1tnu mate first up please do this System Info - See Your System Specs - very hard when we don't know what we are dealing with

The if you have indeed had blue screens please do these
Dump Files - Configure Windows to Create on BSOD
&
Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions

In regards to RAM generally speaking it is always best to buy RAM sticks in matched pairs if you are intending to install more than one stick.
So for example if you were to buy 8GB RAM best is 1x 8GB stick or a matched pair (a packaged set) of 4GB sticks simply because the matched pair will probably have come from the same manufacturing batch and therefore the timings and frequencies will be very close or exactly the same for each stick. Plus you need to try as far as possible to at least use the same brand for the pair if you cannot get a matched pair.
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22 Sep 2016   #3
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP
 
 

If you didn't overclock I see no reason to have memory failure by time.
Windows 7 includes built-in features to help you identify and diagnose problems with memory. If you suspect a computer has a memory problem that isn’t being automatically detected, you can run the Windows Memory Diagnostics utility by completing the following steps:

Click Start, type mdsched.exe in the Search box, and then press Enter.
Choose whether to restart the computer and run the tool immediately or schedule the tool to run at the next restart.
Windows Memory Diagnostics runs automatically after the computer restarts and performs a standard memory test automatically. If you want to perform fewer or more tests, press F1, use the Up and Down arrow keys to set the Test Mix as Basic, Standard, or Extended, and then press F10 to apply the desired settings and resume testing.
When testing is completed, the computer restarts automatically. You’ll see the test results when you log on.

I agree with Icit, don't mix old memory with new.
Even if it don't run on your MB at full speed, you can use DDR3 1600. It will run on at 1333 but with a lower latency. And as they are cheaper.
Best to buy a matched pair. But you can try 2x4G - RAM memorije | 'Memorija DIMM DDR3 4GB 1600MHz Kingston CL11 | Emmi online shop, prodaja: racunari, laptopovi, TFT monitori, netbook i notebook ra?unari, foto oprema...

Is your Win 7 64 bits? Win 7 32 can only deal with 3.2 G.
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22 Sep 2016   #4
1ntu

Windows 7 Home Basic x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Hello and welcome 1tnu mate first up please do this System Info - See Your System Specs - very hard when we don't know what we are dealing with
This is my PC spec:
Mobo: MSI H61M-P20 (G3)
CPU: Intel Dual-Core G645 2.9GHz
GPU: HD7770 1GB/DDR3 PowerColor
HDD: Western Digital 500GB
RAM: 4GB 1333MHz
PSU: ThermalTake 500W
Case: Bitfenix Case
Windows 7 Home Basic 64bit

I didn't have BSOD in few days now(four to be exact). Also somehow i managed to play every game i desired without any problems today(weird). Either is ram going nuts or or something else which idk what it is.
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22 Sep 2016   #5
1ntu

Windows 7 Home Basic x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
If you didn't overclock I see no reason to have memory failure by time.
Windows 7 includes built-in features to help you identify and diagnose problems with memory. If you suspect a computer has a memory problem that isnít being automatically detected, you can run the Windows Memory Diagnostics utility by completing the following steps
I used that Windows feature a week ago(found it while browsing the problem) and no errors what so ever. Tested it 2 times back then and once today.

I am going to put my memory on a test tonight with memtest86+ and see if there is errors there, since many people suggested that program for people with ram issues. Also i only have two options now when it comes to upgrading the RAM since i am not in a good financial state atm.
1) 2x DDR3 2GB 1333MHz Corsair Value CL9
2) 1x DDR3 4GB 1600MHz Kingston HyperX Savage CL9

Knowing myself i have no idea if i will be able to upgrade soon which makes 1x4GB a bit trickier. One more thing i saw many people argue about is single vs dual channel memory. Which will benefit me more with my current setup that i showed in a reply? Many people say that dual channel somehow has some slight advantage in gaming and that it is better when it comes to cooling ram memories. Which is true and which not? Thanks
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22 Sep 2016   #6
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP
 
 

I don't think you have a memory failure.
Do you have a temperature monitor? Is your CPU heat sink clean?

Dual channel split the info into two memory stick. You gain some speed doing it. As mentioned, you must have two two memory sticks.
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23 Sep 2016   #7
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Just my opinion, but you need more memory, and a much better nVidia GPU

You can also check your memory with this, not sure if it`s been mentioned yet, it`s a very quick test.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../ff700221.aspx
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23 Sep 2016   #8
1ntu

Windows 7 Home Basic x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
I don't think you have a memory failure.
Do you have a temperature monitor? Is your CPU heat sink clean?

Dual channel split the info into two memory stick. You gain some speed doing it. As mentioned, you must have two two memory sticks.
The fan was relatively clean, but i cleaned it again. Here are my temperatures 'OpenHardwareMonitor.Report.txt' | TextUploader.com
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23 Sep 2016   #9
1ntu

Windows 7 Home Basic x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Just my opinion, but you need more memory, and a much better nVidia GPU

You can also check your memory with this, not sure if it`s been mentioned yet, it`s a very quick test.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../ff700221.aspx
I ran that test 3 times, 0 errors.
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23 Sep 2016   #10
1ntu

Windows 7 Home Basic x64
 
 

One more thing i ran memtest86+ and this was the result memtest86+ Now i am really confused.
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