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Windows 7: Thinking of a Skylake desktop buld

09 Oct 2016   #11
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
lol yea you might as well wait for kabylake or what ever it is the nickle size cpu 3d ready
Then it will be supported until the next chipset is released. If you want to have the latest chipset or have your chipset supported ( pretty much the same thing) be ready to do a new build every 12-18 months.


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09 Oct 2016   #12
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 


Yep just like watching a dog or cat chasing it's tail
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09 Oct 2016   #13
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

it's the same as everyone wanting a 'Futureproof Build'. There is no such thing.
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09 Oct 2016   #14
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Yea it's more now of picking your preferred os and get one with as few hoops to jump through as possible as far as I can tell
If you want skylake... just get used to the fact it is designed primarily for win-10 or 8.
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09 Oct 2016   #15
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP
 
 

Never seen so many Gurus on a single post. It means that we all love to build our machines.
I've just build a Gigabyte Z170 system with a i5 6600k, DDR4 3000 and M.2 PCIe SSD. I'm disappointed with the results compared to my 5 years old Z86. I was expecting much more.
The main difference between a i7 and a i5 (please correct me if I'm wrong) is Hyper Treating (i5 don't have it).
If you don't use those logical (fake) extra cores, go to a i5. If you choose a k (unlock) version, you need a Z chip set MB.
I agree that the MB sound system is very good and I wouldn't spend money on a sound card. More important are the speakers you're going to use.
After using Asus for many years, my last builds were Gigabyte, and now I'm convinced that Asus is a better choice.
My choice would be a Z170 MB, i5 6600k (mine is running between 800 to 4400MHz with a average heat sink) and DDR4 3000 or a little higher. I can't give my opinion on graphics card as I'm using the IG 530 and I'm satisfied for my needs.
As I had many issues with my M.2 PCIe SSD (with no noticeable speed gain) I won't recommend it.

I read that Kaby Lake and Zen will be compatible only with Win 10 (and Linux).
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09 Oct 2016   #16
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

A few thoughts from me.

1. Their is nothing wrong with a older build.
I have a Asus X58, i7-960, EVGA GTX-960 and a couple of Intel SSD's 12 gigs of ram that still works great. I also have the system in (My System Specs). I choose i7 over i5 not because I need a i7 but rather because I might need a i7 later in time.

2. Their is no such thing as Future Proof. The only way to the biggest and best would be to keep building ever few months or until you run out of time and money.

3. I don't want my motherboard and cpu picking what operating system to use. At the present time if the hardware doesn't like Windows 7; I don't like the hardware. Microsoft should stay out the the hardware business and Asus and Intel should stay out of the operating system business.
One of the reasons people build their own computer is because we get to choose our hardware and programs, including operating systems.

4. If one chooses hardware more to the top end it most likely will take care of your needs for a long time. Even with new operating systems and programs that come out in the future.

5. Always start with solid basics on a build.
A quality high wattage power supply that will take care of your hardware when upgraded or added.
A case/tower that is big and has lots of cooling options. It will make upgrading hardware a lot easier and allow for more options. Size and options does matter.
I would never select a case/tower that didn't have lots of 5 1/4 in. bays. I like to be able to add things later if I desire. No I don't want a bunch of gadgets hanging all over from USB ports. It's a desktop not a laptop.
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Hopefully some of my thought will give some guidance.

Jack/Layback Bear
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09 Oct 2016   #17
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP
 
 

I do agree with Jack. Almost on everything.

"Every plane that has already flew is obsolete"

That is also true to high tech devices. That is why I never buy hardware more to the top end. At top end the prices are at stratospheric levels. And today high end will become very soon mid range. I select my hardware where the cost x performance curve begin to be almost vertical.
And most important: You must have a harmonic system, that is, all parts must be at same cost and performance level.
You wouldn't buy a Ferrari and put a refurbished tire. That apply s to everything.
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09 Oct 2016   #18
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Ok and many thanks to everyone and yes Jack I do prefer to i7 to be honest simply because th i7 5**** series ones I have in my laptops are such blindingly fast the old clockable i5 in the Ivy Bridge comes nowhere near them.

Yes so I am going to have another look again at getting something per Skylake even though the prices are about equal. But am always open to anymore ideas
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09 Oct 2016   #19
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Like a crazy fool I was just looking at i7 6850k
About 100.us more than my current i7 5930k
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09 Oct 2016   #20
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Well I think I will go with either Intel Core i7-6700 3.40GHz LGA1151 CPU BX80662I76700 | shopping express online or this one Intel Core i7-6700K 4.00GHZ LGA1151 CPU BX80662I76700K | shopping express online because the i7 5**** series are $100 more than these!!

Plus I think I might just hang out for the board that can support DDR4 3000+
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