| Windows 7: Blu Ray vs Standard DVD |
19 Jan 2010
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#1 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
Blu Ray vs Standard DVD I need to replace a defective optical drive, and while the idea of a Blu Ray Combo player is appealing, I know that it has some compatibility requirements that I don't know that my system can meet...without buying other upgrades that I don't want.
It is not very clear to me, but I think that it hinges on whether the video card can output HDMI, and that the monitor can receive it. The video cards on my systems are a BFG 7800 GT and an EVGA 8800GTS, both of which have DVI-D connectors available.
I'm not certain about the BFG, but I know that the EVGA claims to have HDMI, but if so, it is not via a HDMI connector. I know that I can't use the HDMI connector on my monitor, because it doesn't work when I use a DVI to HDMI cable.
Though I would like to be able to play Blu Ray movies, I do not want to buy a Blu Ray player, only to find after the fact, that it won't work on my system. If I'm not certain about this, I will simply buy a cheaper standard DVD burner. Can anyone give me some clear instruction in this matter? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
19 Jan 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
If you want to route the playback to a HDTV rather than the monitor you can easly do so. HDMI, DVI--> HDMI connector etc. This part is easily solved without much problem. if you have a HDMI connector on your GPU, its very simple, and just a matter of the HDMI audio drivers being installed (in the case of ATI CCC anyway)
As far as output to your PC monitor, it doesnt matter. How you have it set now to watch DVDs or whatever will work exactly the same with a BD Drive to watch Bluray movies. DVI or HDMI is perfectly fine.
The main issue you will have is the software to playback Bluray Disc. Although the BluRay Drive itself is capable of reading BD discs, you still need some form of software to play & view the movie.
I only know about the LG Drive I have, but it came with Cyberlink Power DVD software. I would guess many other brands do something similiar.
The problem is, most are castrated versions. The one that came with mine would play most BDs fine, but only allowed for 2.0 sound. To unlock it all you had to upgrade the package at a discounted price.
If you already have such software (PowerDVD, Nero, whatever) this will not be a issue. but something you should be aware of.
you do need software to be able to watch blyray movies (but should be included with drive, at least a stripped basic version) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
19 Jan 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 Danbury, CT |
It's not whether your components support HDMI. Rather, it's HDCP. Your graphics card, its drivers, and you monitor must all support HDCP in order to display high definition content. That can be done through a DVI interface. High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You also need compatible player software. The version of Windows Media Player that is included with Windows 7 in the USA supports DVDs, but it won't play BluRay movies. My LG BluRay combo drive came with an old version of Cyberlink's PowerDVD that was incompatible with Windows 7.
There may be a product from Slysoft that eliminates the HDCP requirements, but it won't be cheap. Check whether your components are HDCP compliant. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homegrown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7-3930k Motherboard Asus P9X79 Pro Memory 16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133 Graphics Card eVGA GTX680 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays As PA246Q Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard cheap Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB PSU PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire Case Silverstone FT02 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black Internet Speed 6Mb cable Other Info Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers |
19 Jan 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
Ahhh good point bobkn. Forgot about that.
And yes, AnyDVD will eliminate the HDCP. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
19 Jan 2010
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#5 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
I already have software capable of playing Blu Ray, but I will have to check the HDCP aspect. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
19 Jan 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 |
Adaptor's will never give you the best quality - for Blu-Ray you need native HDMI for your GPU and monitor - a 1080p panel, and for audio an audio card that supports PAP which is any 5000 series ATI card - without PAP you need a dedicated sound card and receiver for 7.1 channel audio. As for HDCP, you need a compatible monitor, card, OS, and player. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio Z46GDU OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 CPU P9700@2.8GHz 1066MHz FSB Motherboard Sony branded Memory 6GB DDR3 1066MHz Graphics Card 9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 13.1' WXGA Screen Resolution 1600x900 Hard Drives 320GB 7200RPM w/ 16MB cache Internet Speed 1MB/s |
19 Jan 2010
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#7 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
After some quick Googling, I have verified the HDCP ability of my hardware, except the BFG video card. I do have another EVGA 8800GTS that I can swap out with it...assuming that it still works.
As far as the sound card goes, I do have an Audigy 2 ZS on both rigs, which I think is capable of 7.1 audio, but I've never used anything except 5.1 on my primary rig, because that is what my speaker system is, my secondary rig only has 2.1 speakers. Will these work or not?
EDIT: I almost missed your comment regarding native vs adapters aspect. By adapters, are you including the use of a straight DVI to DVI connection between the video card and monitor? I have no interest in upgrading my video cards, in terms of purchasing something new, so either what I have will work, or I will abandon the idea of Blu Ray for now. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
19 Jan 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister After some quick Googling, I have verified the HDCP ability of my hardware, except the BFG video card. I do have another EVGA 8800GTS that I can swap out with it...assuming that it still works.
As far as the sound card goes, I do have an Audigy 2 ZS on both rigs, which I think is capable of 7.1 audio, but I've never used anything except 5.1 on my primary rig, because that is what my speaker system is, my secondary rig only has 2.1 speakers. Will these work or not? If you connect the GPU to the card via SPDIF and the card to your speakers, then set the right options in 7, it will probably work. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio Z46GDU OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 CPU P9700@2.8GHz 1066MHz FSB Motherboard Sony branded Memory 6GB DDR3 1066MHz Graphics Card 9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 13.1' WXGA Screen Resolution 1600x900 Hard Drives 320GB 7200RPM w/ 16MB cache Internet Speed 1MB/s |
19 Jan 2010
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I'll like to clear something up. It does not matter whether the connection is DVI or HDMI, they are exactly the same except HDMI also transports sound. Which ever you chose will not matter in the slightest. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
19 Jan 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth I'll like to clear something up. It does not matter whether the connection is DVI or HDMI, they are exactly the same except HDMI also transports sound. Which ever you chose will not matter in the slightest. Connection as in native connection and not via adaptor - right? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio Z46GDU OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 CPU P9700@2.8GHz 1066MHz FSB Motherboard Sony branded Memory 6GB DDR3 1066MHz Graphics Card 9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 13.1' WXGA Screen Resolution 1600x900 Hard Drives 320GB 7200RPM w/ 16MB cache Internet Speed 1MB/s Blu Ray vs Standard DVD problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:23 PM. | |