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Windows 7: Seagate 1.5TB Harddrive


20 Jan 2010   #1

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 
Seagate 1.5TB Harddrive

I'm considering a new harddrive, but until I ran across an attractive offer for the 1.5TB, I had been thinking of the 1TB instead. The larger drive has the following specs:

Formatted Capacity : 1.5TB
Interface Type: Serial ATA-300
Buffer Size: 32MB
Spindle Speed: (RPM) 5900 RPM
Average Latency: 4.16 ms
Data Transfer Rate: Buffer to Host Up to 300MBps
Sustained Throughput: Up to 115MBps
Ports and Connectors: 7-pin Serial ATA Connector
Manufacturer Warranty: 5 Year Limited Warranty

The thing that stands out in my eye is that the spindle speed is slow compared to the 1TB, which is 7200 RPM, but I think the warranty is a bit longer.

I recall recently reading an article posted in the forums news board that said that the 1 TB was the fastest drive in it's class, but the sustained throughput of this drive is slightly faster...I think.

The extra 500GBs would definitely be a plus, but would it really perform as well as the 1TB? Is there any other aspect to consider?

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20 Jan 2010   #2

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

that...is an odd RPM value for a HD
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20 Jan 2010   #3

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Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
I'm considering a new harddrive, but until I ran across an attractive offer for the 1.5TB, I had been thinking of the 1TB instead. The larger drive has the following specs:

Formatted Capacity : 1.5TB
Interface Type: Serial ATA-300
Buffer Size: 32MB
Spindle Speed: (RPM) 5900 RPM
Average Latency: 4.16 ms
Data Transfer Rate: Buffer to Host Up to 300MBps
Sustained Throughput: Up to 115MBps
Ports and Connectors: 7-pin Serial ATA Connector
Manufacturer Warranty: 5 Year Limited Warranty

The thing that stands out in my eye is that the spindle speed is slow compared to the 1TB, which is 7200 RPM, but I think the warranty is a bit longer.

I recall recently reading an article posted in the forums news board that said that the 1 TB was the fastest drive in it's class, but the sustained throughput of this drive is slightly faster...I think.

The extra 500GBs would definitely be a plus, but would it really perform as well as the 1TB? Is there any other aspect to consider?
I have not looked this drive up, but at 5900 rpm it is almost certainly a "green" model. WD has similar models that actually use Green in the description.

As a general rule, 7200 rpms are going to be faster all other things being equal, but you might not notice the difference if you didn't know what you had.

A 1.5 TB 5900 rpm drive in all likelihood has only 3 platters of high density. This helps to improve performance in spite of not being 7200. It may be faster than a Seagate 7200 drive would have been a couple of years ago.

Perform "as well"?

No.

Perform plenty good enough depending on what you do with it?

Yes.

Many will try to tell you it's bad form to use this drive for an OS. I wouldn't tell you that.

This drive is likely cheaper to buy, cheaper to operate, cooler running, and quieter than its 7200 rpm counterpart.

32 MB cache helps it out too. That's all most 7200 rpm drives have.

There is a long thread at the top of one of these forums (hardware?) where you can actually scroll through HD Tune screenshots on a wide variety of drives to see relative performance. Betcha can find an HD Tune report on this drive--either on this forum or with Google.

I bought a WD 1.5 Green a few months ago--no problems. With any luck, I will never buy another mechanical (spinning platter) drive.

Warranties are a marketing tool. You won't often hear of a drive failure after 3 years and before 5 years for which the owner made a warranty claim, although I'm sure it happens. If they last 3, they may well last 15.

Re 5900 RPM: I think WD Green drives are marketed as "variable" speed and actually fluctuate depending on usage. If I recall correctly, at least some "5900 rpm" drives are in fact variable and 5900 is an average used for marketing purposes---an attempt to avoid the "stigma" of 5400--and that manufacturers are quite cagey about divulging actual speeds.

Edit:

The HD performance sticky is at the top of Performance and Maintenance. I have a post in that thread showing my WD 640 Black and WD 1.5 Green.
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20 Jan 2010   #4

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

The ad says that this drive has 4 platters rather than 3. In terms of performance, I tend to only look at the seek time and the throughput. In these two aspects the two drives are very close together. In terms of the perceptible difference in performance, that is another story.
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20 Jan 2010   #5

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

This drive is on special for $89.99 + $6.98 shipping, which is equivalent to the 1TB, and the drive is retail, which has a couple of software diagnostic/operational programs, which the 1TB doesn't come with, as it is a bulk drive. This is about 1/2 the price that Seagate wants for it on a direct order.
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20 Jan 2010   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition
 
 

if it's going to be for data and not the programs or OS you probably won't notice the reduced speed as much but thats a really good deal i might order one just because.
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20 Jan 2010   #7

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Both of you keep talking about reduced speed, but from the specs given, the speed isn't reduced, despite the lower spindle speed, so I really don't understand the comments.
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20 Jan 2010   #8

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Couple of points:

The utilities included with the retail version are undoubtedly available at no charge from the Seagate site, so I would not let that be a factor. The retail pack should include cables, which may be a factor for you if you don't have any.

More importantly:

I don't place much faith in Newegg hardware reviews, but I noticed this:

This drive has exactly as many review rated excellent as poor: 63.

Normally, excellent reviews outnumber poors by at least 2 to 1, sometimes 3 to 1. I checked other large green drives and excellents outnumbered poors by significant margins.

I didn't read all the reviews, but might make me wonder.
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20 Jan 2010   #9

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Re speed:

Spindle speeds have some correlation to benchmarks, but there are obviously other factors:

Reading most of the time?

Writing most of the time?

Average file size 4k?

Average file size 2 Gigs?

File in 3 nearby fragments on platter 1?

File in 40 widely scattered fragments on 4 platters?

Leventy leven other things going on with the CPU or not?

You can't know the underlying circumstances of any benchmarks unless specified in the test.

Additionally: if you are talking about marketing specs as opposed to private party real life tests or formal benchmarking, I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
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20 Jan 2010   #10

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Couple of points:

The utilities included with the retail version are undoubtedly available at no charge from the Seagate site, so I would not let that be a factor. The retail pack should include cables, which may be a factor for you if you don't have any.

More importantly:

I don't place much faith in Newegg hardware reviews, but I noticed this:

This drive has exactly as many review rated excellent as poor: 63.

Normally, excellent reviews outnumber poors by at least 2 to 1, sometimes 3 to 1. I checked other large green drives and excellents outnumbered poors by significant margins.

I didn't read all the reviews, but might make me wonder.
I'm not sure what drive that you checked on Newegg, but here is the one that I'm looking at, but it only has 1 review:

Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda ST315005N4A1AS-RK 1.5TB 5900 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Retail
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