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21 Jan 2010   #21

windows 7 x64 Home Premium

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
I'm not positive that I understand what you mean by "external" northbridge, but I can assure you that AMD motherboards do have both northbridge and southbridge chips on them. Exactly what they do, or how they relate to the CPU, I will leave to others with a better understanding.
Really? Hmmm... I thought they were different that way. Well, like I said, my PC building experience is limited too.

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21 Jan 2010   #22

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE

When it comes to Intel, I'm just as limited as you are with AMD, but I've built 6 AMD rigs, and rebuilt then an unknown number of times, so I do understand the basics of this type of machine.
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22 Jan 2010   #23

Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)

I will ask experts at Tom's hardware.. if or when I get a probable cause to my motherboard's and soundcard's faults that comply under certain criteria, I will be more than happy to fill you guys in on any information given.

Thanks a lot for all your input and brainstroming towards my issue
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22 Jan 2010   #24

windows 7 x64 Home Premium

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by harjafsormok View Post
I will ask experts at Tom's hardware.. if or when I get a probable cause to my motherboard's and soundcard's faults that comply under certain criteria, I will be more than happy to fill you guys in on any information given.

Thanks a lot for all your input and brainstroming towards my issue
Cool. Let us know the outcome!
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26 Jan 2010   #25

Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)

Reply to my initial post from Tom's Hardware (as promised):

outlw6669 wrote:

"While the Gigabyte GA-M720-US3 will work with your current hardware, I would not consider it your best option.
Nvidia's chipsets are far from the best on the market and I think you would be better off avoiding them.
I would recommend either this ASUS M4A77D or Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 as your replacement motherboard.
Both are reasonably priced at $65-70 and will support your current CPU and RAM.

I would highly recommend against getting another Creative sound card.
Creative has many driver issues, inferior sound quality and uses many shady business practises to force customers to upgrade.
Try your onboard sound first, it will probably sound good enough for you.
If afterwards you are looking to boost sound quality, ASUS' Xonar Ds has vastly superior sound quality and features to many newer Creative cards and, at $50, is reasonably priced to boot.

Will read the rest of your other thread when I have a chance and post on anything relevant....

I wrote:

Thanks a lot for your immediate and helpful recommendations; thing is.. I already bought the Gigabyte GA-M720-US3. As regards to the Gigabyte GA-MA69G-S3H (the one i am replacing), will the GA-M720-US3 improve performance compared to the GA-MA69G-S3H? Or will the upgrade be negligibly recognised..?

Also, as regards to the Windows 7 Hardware thread I posted earlier... the query was this:

stevieray wrote:

"Let me clarify what I am saying...

I think you're on the right track with your motherboard replacement... as far as I can tell it will work with your CPU and memory. So that is all good....

BUT... I would be very wary of simply plugging in a new motherboard until I knew exactly why the old one got fried. A little bit of static electricity can ruin a CPU chip, a RAM card, or a board chip... but a bit of accidental static electricity would NOT destroy memory slots. Something really bad zapped your system, and could zap your new MB as well.

Go ahead and get the new MB, just don't use it until you can guarantee the same thing won't happen all over again.

I wrote:
"..Could it be though..(hypothetically speaking) that the surge protection didn't work and that a sudden electrical cut in the power fried my RAM slots and soundcard? lol wtf are the odds of that!"

followed by posts 14-19 on page 2

Thanks again for your patience and expert advice

outlw6669 wrote:

As you have already bought the motherboard, yes it will work just fine.
I would not really consider it an upgrade but it will run your current CPU, RAM and GPU just as good as your old motherboard.

As to the rest regarding any power surges....
Could you please post more information regarding your PSU and any surge protection you are using.
For the PSU, please post the manufacturer, wattage, +12v amperage and aproximate age.
Also, please post any overclocks/overvolts you where using before the system died.

My first thought is that there is either an issue with the PSU or that there was a power surge.
Did you inspect the PCB and electrical connections for any scorch marks or a burnt smell?
If not, please do and let us know what you find (pics a big plus if you locate anything).

geofelt wrote:

1) Test out your ram, one stick at a time using memtest86+ You do not need an OS to do this.
For any failing sticks, contact Corsair, they have a lifetime replacement policy.

2) The cpu chip is vastly more important to performance than the motherboard. You will see NO appreciable difference.

3) I suspect a faulty psu or power surge to be at fault. When 3d gaming, the vga card draws extra power and runs hotter. Unless your "high end" psu is of known quality, replace it. I would return it to the manufacturer for replacement.
Using it again, if defective will cause you no end of grief.

4) If you suspect a power surge, get a decent UPS with power conditioning. A surge suppressor is not sufficient. The battery life need not be long, perhaps only 3-5 minutes. Look to APC for good ones.

5) Try the onboard HD sound first. It is usually very good. You can always add one later.

6) Because you are replacing the chipset, you will have to do at least a repair install of windows. A clean install is much better if you can handle it. Make certain that your chipset drivers and nvidia drivers are current.

6) Go to the corsair web site and access their ram selection configurator. Enter your motherboard and look at the list of compatible parts. Your ram sticks should appear on the list.

I replied:

Hi again,

All RAM sticks have been tested seperately by the techs. No faults were found.

The Power Supply is: HIPER POWER HPU-4M780-PE 780W
As regards to faults in the supply.. :

"Good Morning,

Thank you for your e-mail, and sorry for the delay for our reply.

We have rechecked the PSU for the second time to be sure, and it has worked fine.

Should you need further assistance do not hesitate to contact us.

I bought an 800VA - Centralion Blazer Line Interactive UPS; hope it's decent enough.

The Creative mentioned soundcard is the one I have. The techs offered it to me free.

A reformat has already been made to my computer (according to the techs) and is currently OS-less.. all I have to do is install a fresh clean installation of an OS (7-Professional) now, no?

As regards to the Corsair site RAM config utility. My motherboard (the new one osn't displayed in the list, which is why I have emailed their tech staff:

"(i havn't tried the above system yet.) I was running 3 RAM sticks, 1 of VS2GB800D2 and 2 of VS2GB667D2 on a GA-MA69G-S3H, and now i have ordered the current motherboard selected (due to motherboard malfunction - unable to read more than 1GB of RAM at a time. Would you be so kind as to telling me if the RAM sticks will be compatible with my new GA-M720-US3 motherboard?"


outlw6669 concluded:

Well, Hiper PSU's are quite junky but it should be more than enough for your system.
If the shop tested it twice than I would assume it is working...

Same with the RAM, if it has tested good, I would assume it is working for now.
You should have no issues getting it to work on your new motherboard.

It looks like you are prepared as you can get, start installing the OS
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26 Jan 2010   #26

windows 7 x64 Home Premium

"It looks like you are prepared as you can get, start installing the OS"

That sums it up. Good luck!

If you run into any problems, start a thread in the "Installation & Setup" forum.
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