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Windows 7 - C2Q Q6600 or Q8400? |
02-04-2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 RC |
C2Q Q6600 or Q8400? OK...so right now I am currently running the Core 2 Quad Q8400 at 2.66Ghz. In a machine that I have in the closet, I have a Q6600 @ 2.4Ghz. I know that I can OC the 6600 to a little over 3 Ghz on stock cooling, no problem. I tried to OC the 8400 up to 3 the other day and got a bios error about a 333Mhz processor being installed and then forced to reboot back into the bios.
My question is: Should I throw the 6600 back in here, or should I stick with the 8400? The question is in terms of which I would get the best performance out of.
My mobo and other specs are listed below.
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Model #: BRMD10926 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 RC CPU Core i5-750 2.66Ghz OC'd to 3.49 Motherboard Gigabyte H55M-USB3 Memory 8GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3 1600 with thermal monitor Graphics Card Geforce GTS 250 512MB HDMI Sound Card On Board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays Acer X223HQ Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Gear Heads 2.4 Ghz wireless Mouse Gear Heads 2.4 Ghz wireless PSU Rosewill 700W Case Thermaltake V9 Black Edition Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Samsung Spinpoint 7200 1TB
WD Raptor 7200 1TB
WD Raptor 7200 300GB Internet Speed 30Mbps Cable Other Info Asus EEE PC 1005HAB: Win7 Home Premium, Intel Atom N270 1.6Ghz, 1GB DDR2, 160GB Hitachi HDD |
02-04-2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
I wonder if the difference is the chip itself or the motherboard, but I have a Q8400 in a Gigabyte EP45-UD3P and it OCs like a champ. I can hit 3Ghz with decent temps (with a Freezer Pro 7) and have had one blue screen trying to push it up to 3.5Ghz. Every PCU is different but i love the Q8400. (I like my i7860 more haha) but I think the Q8400 is a great CPU. I think it's the board or CPU (or cooling) if you're having problems getting a stable 3.0
All that said, the 6600 is one of the best for a good reason, but performance would go to the Q8400 all things equal I believe. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Keeps changing - (Custom) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20 Graphics Card MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr Sound Card Onboard realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900) Keyboard Gigabyte USB keyboard Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 PSU Corsair 750 HX Modular Case Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case Hard Drives Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives Internet Speed 7 Mb down 1.5 up Other Info System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM. |
02-04-2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 RC |
Thanks for the reply nate. Yeah, I'm guessing it probably is the mobo, as that was the first time I had attempted to OC since building this new rig. I'm thinking I will stick with the 8400, and just see if I can find some settings in the bios that will allow me to OC it a bit. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Model #: BRMD10926 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 RC CPU Core i5-750 2.66Ghz OC'd to 3.49 Motherboard Gigabyte H55M-USB3 Memory 8GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3 1600 with thermal monitor Graphics Card Geforce GTS 250 512MB HDMI Sound Card On Board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays Acer X223HQ Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Gear Heads 2.4 Ghz wireless Mouse Gear Heads 2.4 Ghz wireless PSU Rosewill 700W Case Thermaltake V9 Black Edition Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Samsung Spinpoint 7200 1TB
WD Raptor 7200 1TB
WD Raptor 7200 300GB Internet Speed 30Mbps Cable Other Info Asus EEE PC 1005HAB: Win7 Home Premium, Intel Atom N270 1.6Ghz, 1GB DDR2, 160GB Hitachi HDD |
02-04-2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by blackroseMD1 Thanks for the reply nate. Yeah, I'm guessing it probably is the mobo, as that was the first time I had attempted to OC since building this new rig. I'm thinking I will stick with the 8400, and just see if I can find some settings in the bios that will allow me to OC it a bit. I do like the Q8400....you already know this I'm sure but you might see if there's a BIOS update for the board. Sometimes they add OCing features. You could always spend $120 and get a EP45-UD3P too. I have never loved a board as much as this one.
All the best. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Keeps changing - (Custom) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20 Graphics Card MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr Sound Card Onboard realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900) Keyboard Gigabyte USB keyboard Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 PSU Corsair 750 HX Modular Case Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case Hard Drives Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives Internet Speed 7 Mb down 1.5 up Other Info System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM. |
02-04-2010
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#5 | | |
Performance might be tricky to figure out here. As you can see in this chart, Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor - Specifications
The Q6600 has 8MB of L2 cache...while the Q8400 only has 4MB of L2 cache.
The Q8400 runs on a 1333Mhz FSB, so a 333Mhz bus quad pumped
The Q6600 runs on a 1066Mhz FSB, so a 267Mhz bus quad pumped
So, it all depends on which you take more advantage of...the additional L2 cache or the faster bus and memory speeds possible.
When I did my build, I went with the Q9550 to get the 12MB of L2 cache and the 1333Mhz FSB. And I have been quite happy with that CPU. On my GA-EP45-UD3R 1.1 rev mobo, I'm running that 2.83ghz at 3.20 on the stock air cooler with no heat issues at all. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
02-04-2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 RC |
Well, I updated the bios, bumped up the voltages a notch, and have it set on 2.8 for now. Gonna check the temps in a bit and then see about reaching 3.0.
Weird thing was, updating the bios seemed to wipe almost all of the drivers from my sytem.
Edit: Nope...seems like 2.8 is as far as I can push it.
Last edited by blackroseMD1; 02-04-2010 at 07:21 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Model #: BRMD10926 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 RC CPU Core i5-750 2.66Ghz OC'd to 3.49 Motherboard Gigabyte H55M-USB3 Memory 8GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3 1600 with thermal monitor Graphics Card Geforce GTS 250 512MB HDMI Sound Card On Board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays Acer X223HQ Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Gear Heads 2.4 Ghz wireless Mouse Gear Heads 2.4 Ghz wireless PSU Rosewill 700W Case Thermaltake V9 Black Edition Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Samsung Spinpoint 7200 1TB
WD Raptor 7200 1TB
WD Raptor 7200 300GB Internet Speed 30Mbps Cable Other Info Asus EEE PC 1005HAB: Win7 Home Premium, Intel Atom N270 1.6Ghz, 1GB DDR2, 160GB Hitachi HDD |
02-04-2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Service Pack 1 |
You can only push it from 2.6 to 2.8? There must be something wrong, you should be able to get it to 3GHz and over. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core i7 920 Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth x58 Memory 6GB XMS3 Corsair 1333MHz Graphics Card ASUS Nvidia Geforce GTX470 SLI Sound Card ASUS Xonar DX/XD 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" S2409W + Dell 20" E207WFP Screen Resolution 1920x1080 + 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech G11 Keyboard Mouse Logitech G5 Laser Mouse (2007 edition) PSU Corsair HX850 modular Case Coolermaster 690II Advanced Nvidia Edition Cooling Zalman CNPS9700-NT Cooler, 3x 140mm, 2x 120mm Hard Drives 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex 2E, 1x 750GB Western Digital Caviar Black, 1x 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green Internet Speed 100Mbps Other Info LG Blu-Ray player |
02-04-2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 RC |
I think the problem may be that I haven't bumped the processor voltage any. Anywhere between 2.85 and 3 and it would blue screen right away.
Think I could get it higher if I boosted the processor voltage? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Model #: BRMD10926 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 RC CPU Core i5-750 2.66Ghz OC'd to 3.49 Motherboard Gigabyte H55M-USB3 Memory 8GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3 1600 with thermal monitor Graphics Card Geforce GTS 250 512MB HDMI Sound Card On Board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays Acer X223HQ Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Gear Heads 2.4 Ghz wireless Mouse Gear Heads 2.4 Ghz wireless PSU Rosewill 700W Case Thermaltake V9 Black Edition Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Samsung Spinpoint 7200 1TB
WD Raptor 7200 1TB
WD Raptor 7200 300GB Internet Speed 30Mbps Cable Other Info Asus EEE PC 1005HAB: Win7 Home Premium, Intel Atom N270 1.6Ghz, 1GB DDR2, 160GB Hitachi HDD |
02-04-2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
You also must remember 45nm CPUs react differently from 65nm (like the Q6600) to OCing
The 45nm CPUs (like the Q8400) are a little different to OC. If you usee the exact same methods as 65nm CPUs you will not get the best results.
Read up on OCing the 45nm chips. I find them easy to OC but they are not the same as 65nm. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Keeps changing - (Custom) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20 Graphics Card MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr Sound Card Onboard realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900) Keyboard Gigabyte USB keyboard Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 PSU Corsair 750 HX Modular Case Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case Hard Drives Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives Internet Speed 7 Mb down 1.5 up Other Info System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM. |
02-04-2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by blackroseMD1 I think the problem may be that I haven't bumped the processor voltage any. Anywhere between 2.85 and 3 and it would blue screen right away.
Think I could get it higher if I boosted the processor voltage? Yes, and the 45nm CPUs like a small bump in CPU termination voltage to (not sure if that option is on your board) I had a lot more luck when I bumped that a bit.
Also, I know people will have mixed reactions to this but I have found this to be a pretty good "general" guide on how well CPUs perform. They have good lists on cards and hard drives too. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Keeps changing - (Custom) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20 Graphics Card MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr Sound Card Onboard realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900) Keyboard Gigabyte USB keyboard Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 PSU Corsair 750 HX Modular Case Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case Hard Drives Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives Internet Speed 7 Mb down 1.5 up Other Info System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM. C2Q Q6600 or Q8400? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:34 PM. |  |