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03-13-2010
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#1 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
24 X DVD Burner I was shopping for a new burner, when I noticed that LG has a model that is supposed to write at 24X. As far as I know, there is no media available that fast...is there? If not, what is the point in these faster drives?
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, KDS AV-7TF/**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1280x1024/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
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03-13-2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 (Build 6.1.7601) |
IMO its more of a sales thing but what most people dont still know is you should burn at the lowest speed, if you burn at a higher speed its has a higher chace of failing the burn. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 (Build 6.1.7601) CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (G0 Kentsfield) LGA775 (FC-LGA6) Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-EP35C-DS3R (Rev. 2.1) Memory Corsair TW3X4G1333C9A 4GB PC-10600 (2x XMS3 2GB) Graphics Card ASUS nVIDIA GeForce 560 Sound Card RealTek ALC885/889A/890 Monitor(s) Displays ChiMei CMV CT-730D 17inch (LCD Monitor) Screen Resolution 1280-1024 60Hertz (Ture Colour 32bit) Keyboard Labtec Media Desktop Y-SAD65 Mouse Razer DeathAdder 3G Infrared Sensor (1800DPI) PSU ANTEC 750w Earthwatts Case Thermaltake Shark (VA7000SWA ATX) Full Tower Cooling Front 120mm fan (1400 RPM) /Rear 120mm (1400 RPM) blue LED Hard Drives 2x Barracuda 7200.10 SATA 3.0Gb/s 160-GB Hard Drive ST3160815AS (AHCI) Internet Speed Telstra BigPond Elite Liberty ADSL2+ 24Mbps/256kbps Other Info ASUS PCE-N13 802.11n Wireless LAN card |
03-13-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Crispy IMO its more of a sales thing but what most people dont still know is you should burn at the lowest speed, if you burn at a higher speed its has a higher chace of failing the burn.
Yep! Faster speeds = much higher chances of multiple cupholders being created! The faster it writes, the higher chance for a sector to be skipped/written wrong, and all it takes is a single bit of data in the wrong spot to ruin the CD - I always make it a point to write at 2x or 4x speed even though I can do 5 times that, slow and steady wins the race in cd/dvd/bluray burning! | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Premium (OEM) CPU AMD Phenom x4 955 BE @ 3.2GHz Motherboard ASUS Crosshair III Memory 8gigs (4x2gb) Mushkin DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce 260 GTX 216 core 896mb Sound Card SoundBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty Pro Monitor(s) Displays 26.5" Samsung ToC, 22" Samsung 226BW Screen Resolution 1920x1200 & 1680x1050 Keyboard Razer Tarantula Mouse Razer Imperator w/ Razer Goliathus Precision Mat PSU Thermaltake ToughPower 750w Case CoolerMaster Scout CMStorm Black Edition Cooling 2x140mm Intake/Exhaust, 1x120mm Exhaust, 2x120mm Side Intake Hard Drives 2x WD Caviar Black AAKS 500gigs (RAID 0)
2x WD Caviar Black AAKS 1TB Internet Speed 5mb DSL (768k Download, 83k Upload) |
03-13-2010
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#4 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
Yes, I do understand that the tortoise wins the race, but I'm wondering if a faster burner makes it possible to speed the tortoise up some? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, KDS AV-7TF/**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1280x1024/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
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03-13-2010
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#5 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit |
Another vote for slow and steady burning. Also I always choose verify. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite L305D laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core QL-64, 2100 Mhz, 2 Cores Motherboard TOSHIBA Portable PC (Socket M2/S1G1) Memory 4.0GB (2x2GB) DDR2 @ 333MHz 5-5-5-15 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics (Toshiba) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor @ 1280x800 Screen Resolution 1280 x 800 Keyboard standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives 125.03GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device (IDE)
Depending upon testing, organized as 1,2, or 3 partitions with/without a 100mb system partition at the front. Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drives HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T50N ATA Device
Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad
Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
03-13-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister I was shopping for a new burner, when I noticed that LG has a model that is supposed to write at 24X. As far as I know, there is no media available that fast...is there? If not, what is the point in these faster drives? Personally I would avoid the LG and go for a drive that has the NEC controller as opposed to those that have the mediatek controller (Which is on most of the newer drives now)
The Sony Optiarc and the pioneer drives up to 217 (218 was the first to use the mediatek) have the NEC controllers.
Basically the difference is that the NEC controllers allow for a better/reliable burn at a higher speeds.
And there are several brands of media rated to burn @ x24 DVD+R, DVD-R | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me // Clevo Sager P170HM OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5 2500K 4.6 Ghz // i7 2720QM Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz // 8GB 1333mhz Graphics Card Asus GTX 580 DirectCU II // GTX 485M Sound Card X-FI Forte 7.1 + ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung // 17.3 Matte Screen Resolution 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black Mouse Razer Imperator + Razer Lachesis PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Lian Li PC-V1020A Cooling Noctua NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 1TB Seagate 7200.12 - Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0 // 120GB Crucial C300 * 500GB |
03-13-2010
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#7 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |

Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball Personally I would avoid the LG and go for a drive that has the NEC controller as opposed to those that have the mediatek controller (Which is on most of the newer drives now) I have been trying to avoid LG, not because of any controller issue...though that is good to know, but because I really dislike the loud clack that the one that I do have makes when opening the tray. Quote: The Sony Optiarc and the pioneer drives up to 217 (218 was the first to use the mediatek) have the NEC controllers.
Basically the difference is that the NEC controllers allow for a better/reliable burn at a higher speeds.
And there are several brands of media rated to burn @ x24 DVD+R, DVD-R Where does one find such media? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, KDS AV-7TF/**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1280x1024/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
03-14-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister Where does one find such media? TBH, I really don't know. I've always had great success with Sony Optical 16x media across several burners with a 12x/x16 setting for both DVD movies, videos, OS discs etc, so I've never felt compelled to look for alternative media.
I just went on a hunt for 24x and the results were non-existent. I'm starting to think I might have imagined it, or confused it with something else.
My apologies for the confusion... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me // Clevo Sager P170HM OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5 2500K 4.6 Ghz // i7 2720QM Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz // 8GB 1333mhz Graphics Card Asus GTX 580 DirectCU II // GTX 485M Sound Card X-FI Forte 7.1 + ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung // 17.3 Matte Screen Resolution 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black Mouse Razer Imperator + Razer Lachesis PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Lian Li PC-V1020A Cooling Noctua NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 1TB Seagate 7200.12 - Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0 // 120GB Crucial C300 * 500GB |
03-19-2010
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#9 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
This is strange. I ordered a Sony Optiarc from Amazon a couple of days ago, but decided to cancel the order a couple of hours later, because I realized that I got mixed up and ordered one with the NEC controller, instead of the Mediatek controller as you recommended, but it would not even begin to let me, it said that it was already being processed for shipping and couldn't be canceled or changed.
Since I had not received anything from them via email about the sale...even an acknowledgement that the order was placed, I just went back to my Amazon account, and it doesn't list the order at all.
I usually make copies of the receipts, but somehow I failed to do so this time, so I have nothing to so for proof of it if needed. I say if needed, because so far there has not been a draft on my account for the sale, so for all practical purposes it doesn't seem to exist. It was only for $28, so there isn't a lot involved, but every dollar counts. If something doesn't happen in a week or so, I'll just go shopping again. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, KDS AV-7TF/**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1280x1024/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
03-19-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister This is strange. I ordered a Sony Optiarc from Amazon a couple of days ago, but decided to cancel the order a couple of hours later, because I realized that I got mixed up and ordered one with the NEC controller, instead of the Mediatek controller as you recommended, but it would not even begin to let me, it said that it was already being processed for shipping and couldn't be canceled or changed. Actually, if you re-read my post, it was a drive with a NEC controller I recommended, so you did order the right one
However, it is a little disconcerting that your order 'disappeared'
That's pretty poor form on Amazons behalf. I'd definitely keep an eye on your bank records, especially if no drive appears. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me // Clevo Sager P170HM OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5 2500K 4.6 Ghz // i7 2720QM Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz // 8GB 1333mhz Graphics Card Asus GTX 580 DirectCU II // GTX 485M Sound Card X-FI Forte 7.1 + ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung // 17.3 Matte Screen Resolution 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine Cherry MX Black Mouse Razer Imperator + Razer Lachesis PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Lian Li PC-V1020A Cooling Noctua NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 1TB Seagate 7200.12 - Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0 // 120GB Crucial C300 * 500GB All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:47 PM. |  |