| Windows 7: Help with setting up RAID |
31 Mar 2010
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Help with setting up RAID Hey guys, I'm running a 500GB WD Blue SATA drive and thinking about getting another 500GB or 1TB internal drive. Wondering if anyone knew of a good tutorial for setting them up in a RAID. I am a complete noob to the idea.
'Nother question, Would I have to format my current drive to set it up in a RAID?
Thanks in advance,
Shook | My System Specs |
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01 Apr 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Earth - I wish I was on Risa |
First make a complete back up of your drive in case something goes wrong. Most of the time you can install the drive, boot, and from within Windows and Disk Management you can create the Mirror. The OS will make the changes for you and copy all the data from drive 1 to drive 2. NOTE: I have had this go wrong and you do lose all the data on the first drive that is why I said make a complete back up first. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OP760 OS Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Memory 8GB Monitor(s) Displays 2 Dell 19" LCD Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Dell Mouse Dell Optical Internet Speed 40meg |
01 Apr 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
You might want to read up on the different RAID types before you do anything. Ideally you want both drives to be the same size, identical drives from the same manufacturer being optimal. If you are going to mirror, RAID 1, you should be able to do it without loosing data. I'd back up anyway just in case. If you are going to stripe ,RAID 0, you'll probably going to have to do a clean install. I would anyway. I've never done software RAID, only hardware RAID, and its been a while so times may have changed, but I always ended up doing a clean install when setting up my RAID array. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
01 Apr 2010
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Thanks guys. Yea I was wondering if I would need hardware, and also wondered what RAID type would I need. I just want to make sure I have a backup of all my data. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ME OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel i5 2500k @ 4.7Ghz Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 Graphics Card EVGA Classified GTX560ti 448 core Sound Card ASUS Xonar DG - Logitech G930 Headset Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 24" VE247 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9x PSU Seasonic x650 Gold Certified Modular Case Corsair 400R / NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller Cooling Corsair H100 / XIGMATEK 120mm White LED x 9 Hard Drives 120GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD
WD 500GB Caviar Blue x 2 Internet Speed 20Mbit |
01 Apr 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
Check the manual for your motherboard, most now have built in support for RAID. If you mirror an exact copy of your data is saved to both hard drives. If one drive fails the other one just keeps on trucking. There is no performance advantage to speak of but you have hardware redundancy. Keep in mind that if say for example you use two 500 gig drives you will only have 500 gigs of space not 1000. If you mirror your data is saved across both drives so in this case two 500 gig drives will get you 1000 gigs of space to play with. There is a performance advantage as both drives are read at the same time. The downfall is if one drive in a two drive setup fails all your data is lost. Been there done that and its not fun.  RAID 5 is I think the preferred setup if you can afford it. Three or more drives etc. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
01 Apr 2010
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What is it that you are trying to accomplish by moving to a RAID based setup??? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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01 Apr 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 What is it that you are trying to accomplish by moving to a RAID based setup??? Well I would just like to constantly have a backup of all of my files. But I was told you can only run RAID with matching drives. Not a 500g and a 1tb. Think I'll just stick to backing up images every once and awhile.
How about Windows 7's built in backup? Anyone like it and/or use it? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ME OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel i5 2500k @ 4.7Ghz Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 Graphics Card EVGA Classified GTX560ti 448 core Sound Card ASUS Xonar DG - Logitech G930 Headset Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 24" VE247 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9x PSU Seasonic x650 Gold Certified Modular Case Corsair 400R / NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller Cooling Corsair H100 / XIGMATEK 120mm White LED x 9 Hard Drives 120GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD
WD 500GB Caviar Blue x 2 Internet Speed 20Mbit |
02 Apr 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
I wouldn't bother with RAID for what you want to do. You would be better off just backing up your stuff to the second drive. Mirroring RAID 1 only protects you from a drive failure. If windows goes funky and you can't log in you won't be able to get to your files. If it screws up it screws up on both drives. I have my backup drive in an external enclosure and only turn it on when I want to backup or restore my files. I have more than one PC so it makes it easy to transfer my music, pictures and stuff from one PC to the other. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
02 Apr 2010
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I wholeheartedly agree that for saving data, a RAID 1 mirror for home use is not the way to go.
#1). If you get a virus or accidentally delete a file, you lose it on both drives instantly.
#2). If your house burns down or your computer is stolen, both copies of your data are gone at the same time.
I would use a pair of external drives instead and a utility to like sync toy or robocopy to make a mirror copy on the external drives. Then, take one of the drives offsite regularly....so in the event of theft or a fire, you don't lose your backups and your originals. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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02 Apr 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Earth - I wish I was on Risa |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 I wholeheartedly agree that for saving data, a RAID 1 mirror for home use is not the way to go.
#1). If you get a virus or accidentally delete a file, you lose it on both drives instantly.
#2). If your house burns down or your computer is stolen, both copies of your data are gone at the same time.
I would use a pair of external drives instead and a utility to like sync toy or robocopy to make a mirror copy on the external drives. Then, take one of the drives offsite regularly....so in the event of theft or a fire, you don't lose your backups and your originals. Great advice! Here is what I am doing that works perfectly (well untested). I bought a fire safe that has an extremely high fire rating, with a guarantee it can be opened. I then bought a high quality 1TB hard drive the connects via USB. Next I drilled a small hole in the back of the safe just enough of a size to get the power cord and then the UBS cable into the safe. I then lock the drive inside the safe and make backups. I did some research about the small hole damaging the backup portable hard drive and smoke damage will not hurt it and the inside of the safe will not get hot enough to hurt the drive. This gives me two types of peace of mind. 1) Since the safe is bolted to the floor in the closet it cannot be stolen. (well not easily) 2) I am protected against fire. Note: I have not tested this and I don't think burning down the house would be a practical test. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OP760 OS Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Memory 8GB Monitor(s) Displays 2 Dell 19" LCD Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Dell Mouse Dell Optical Internet Speed 40meg Help with setting up RAID problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:06 AM. | |