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Windows 7: SSD became slow, any fixes?


27 Apr 2010   #11

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sanvean View Post
Hi exia!
I would have gotten a link for you quicker, but I just got home from work a bit ago.

If you install Windows 7 as a fresh install on a ssd, it will align the partitions correctly, xp you have to jump thru some hoops.

The following is taken directly from OCZ (Posted by Tony Offical OCZ staff):
1 I check the board is in AHCI mode, if no option is available there is nothing you can do.

2 I check if S1 and S3 sleep are supported in bios, I usually set S1 but S3 should be ok also....if they are not in bios there is nothing you can do

3 I check ACPI 2.0 is in bios and enabled, if its not in bios there is nothing you can do

4 I boot to 32bit Windows 7 RC1 on USB which also has Sanitary Erase on the USB drive. I run SE off the USB drive using the CMD window within the Windows 7 installer. if the drives are brand new i do not bother with this step.

5 I then power off, swap USB drives to 64bit Windows 7 final and I Install Windows 7 off this new USB drive ( I do this is its much faster than off DVD, but you can use DVD)

6 I let Windows 7 installer create and format the partition, all i do is hit NEXT even though the installer sees the drive and reports the drive space is RAW. Windows 7 will create a primary partition and quick format all on its own.

7 I use Windows 7 native AHCI driver for both AMD and INTEL systems.

8 Install takes 10mins tops, i then load Video and Sound drivers and any LAN driver I may need.

9 The tweaks:

Disable Superfetch

Disable Defrag scheduler

Disable drive Indexing (Drive properties uncheck last option at bottom)


I'm an Intel ssd user, but from my surfing on the OCZ site, garbage collection will happen if you let the system set at the login screen for about a few hours a week.

I just found this:
"For use within windows 7 there is absolutely no maintenance needed apart from allowing the machine to idle at the login screen for a few hours each week, this allows the garbage collection time to recover the drive and free up space TRIM has not been able to deal with. For all other windows based OS with no TRIM support...The simple answer is an application called Wiper.exe."

So it seems exia, you don't need to run wiper if you run Windows 7!
Another suggestion after you install Windows 7 on an ssd, is to run the WEI bench, this verify it's detected correctly. Platter drives only go as high as 5.9, ssds 7.+
WEI score is 6.7 for my SSD.

GC will run at the login screen? Does it say how long I have to idle for? Seriously who leaves their computer at the login screen? 99% of users probably don't.

And what is with the long ass install guide you have posted, again 99% of users will not even bother. I think OCZ got it wrong this time, most people will not even go through such a tedious process to get their SSD to work "properly", seems like OCZ is using it's customers as guinea pigs or didn't bother making a proper SSD.

How come I can't run wiper.exe? I would really like to run it, despite having to run a maintenance program for my drive which is suppose to take care of itself if OCZ did their job properly. This is the last time I buy an OCZ drive, I should have just paid the extra cash and bought an Intel drive.

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27 Apr 2010   #12

W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32
 
 

I would suggest that you just leave well enough alone. You need to make an effort in order to do it properly. Someone gave you a method and you whined about it. It takes what it takes to work with this hardware. Research what you need to do, or leave it alone.
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27 Apr 2010   #13

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by spyknee View Post
I would suggest that you just leave well enough alone. You need to make an effort in order to do it properly. Someone gave you a method and you whined about it. It takes what it takes to work with this hardware. Research what you need to do, or leave it alone.
I don't understand why you are here, why don't you use Linux?
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27 Apr 2010   #14

W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by exia View Post
I don't understand why you are here, why don't you use Linux?

I use Windows 7, so thats why I'm here.
Its really not that complicated, but if you do not follow the steps right, you will be disappointed. There is alot of reading to do, but until you do, you will not understand the steps I give you. I am not a professional but I built an SSD puter. You need to get FW 1.5 and burn the iso to disk. You need to get SE and install it on a windows OS disk so you can SE the one SSD you have used.
I spent two weeks at the OCZ forum filtering thru the muck to get an approach to do an upgrade from RC1 to retail. More than happy to share but you have to get yourself to a point. Spend a day at OCZ on the 1.5 and SE guides. Then I will give you a laymans way to get by and you will understand it.
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27 Apr 2010   #15
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

C'mon guys. Don't get off track. spyknee is right. You have to go thru the motions or leave it alone and get a somewhat lesser performance.
As an alternative, you can create an OCZ service ticket and ask them whether they would flash it for you when you send it in. They once did that for me free of charge.
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27 Apr 2010   #16

Windows 7 x64
 
 

How can I tell if my SSD is in IDE mode? The above guide says I need to be in IDE mode, but my drive is a SATA drive obviously.
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27 Apr 2010   #17

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Just flashed to 1.5

Now what do I have to do to make sure my drive is up to speed? Do I still have to idle at the login screen?
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27 Apr 2010   #18

Win 7 SP1
 
 

FYI, if your board has an Intel chipset, the new Rapid Storage Tech drivers pass TRIM commands and may be faster for your system - YMMV

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27 Apr 2010   #19

Windows 7 x64
 
 

I ran wiper and then ran WEI and my score changed from 6.7 to 6.8. So I guess TRIM and GC does work.

I don't have any more questions for the time being so unless any of you have anything to add I will let this thread be.

FWIW, this is probably the most helpful forum I have ever been on. It has never let me down so far, keep up the good work!
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27 Apr 2010   #20

W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by exia View Post
How can I tell if my SSD is in IDE mode? The above guide says I need to be in IDE mode, but my drive is a SATA drive obviously.
Thats in mobo bios. Hit DELETE at boot to enter bios. Save bios profile of current bios settings. Select default bios option if available. Reboot Enter bios again and you should see the 1 drive listed under IDE. choice

FW 1.5 Flash with CD.
Unplug all drives, but the one you want to flash. Plug it into the mobos SATA 0 port. IDE mode in bios
Set CD ROM as boot device.
When CD boots, flash file, hit 1>enter>Y>enter
You should get text saying done.
Turn off, disconnect power. remove 1st SSD and add 2nd SSD and repeat.

Flash should be quick in duration and should not damage any data on the disk.
The trick here is to burn the FW 1.5 iso file properly, so it will boot and flash.

Return your system to where it was physically and load back in the bios profile you saved.
GC works on its own, all by itself. Its in the SSD itself. Go into power managment, select "all power on" scheme, tell HD to never turn off. GC will operate whenever the puter is idle, logged on/off, it works when idle is the deal, needs 60min.

Now, a new OS install requires more.
And remember drives are only as good as the cpu. No moving parts, 1ms seek time.
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