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Windows 7: SSD became slow, any fixes?

25 Apr 2010   #1
exia

Windows 7 x64
 
 
SSD became slow, any fixes?

I am almost certain my SSD has gotten a bit slower since I have bought it. I have a 30 GB OCZ Vertex drive with firmware 1.4. It is a second generation drive. I am running Windows 7 x64.

File transfers between hard drives used to be 100 MB/s, now they are around 75 MB/s. That is the only thing I can go on. Windows start up time hasn't changed. Program loads might be slower, but I can't be too sure.

It there anything kind of maintenance I can run? With traditional HDDs I used to defrag but that is not needed for SSDs. I want my SSD to be running in top shape without doing anything too extreme. I already Disable Superfetch/Disable Defrag scheduler/Disable drive Indexing. What about this wiper.exe program? I downloaded it and tried to run it but it won't let me...And I right Windows 7 automatically takes care of SSDs, how can I be sure that?

I first installed Windows 7x64 on my 1500GB WD drive, then I reinstalled Windows on my SSD however I later realized that I left the boot files on the 1500GB drive and then I had to run a windows repair to sever the link between the SSD and the 1500 GB drive.


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25 Apr 2010   #2
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Suggest you run HD Tune to see whether it is really slower. Maybe there is another problem. The wiper only helps with write operations.
But since you played with your MBR, the alignment could be out of wack. Check that in msinfo32 > Components > storage > disks > partition starting offset (should be 1MB).
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26 Apr 2010   #3
spyknee

W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32
 
 

1) Goto the OCZ forums for SSD help!
2) I use these SSD's in a RAID array. Just redid the puter and flashed everything. FW 1.4 provides Trim support for SSD. FW 1.41 provides for "GC", Garbage Collection. (agressive disk maintenance) FW 1.5 is the latest and greatest version, provides Trim and GC. GC is what you want, IMO. I was using FW 1.3, with same puter layout, and had a performance drop off as well. Using FW 1.5 has kept the performance level consistant. You want to flash to FW 1.5, IMO.
You want OS on the SSD, IMO.
You should start again with the SSD. You should flash them/it to FW 1.5, use "SE", Sanitary Erase on it/them and do a clean install of W7. There is an approach to doing this so do the research, and I am willing to impart whatever I know from my experience. I am not a professional but my SSD puter has worked from day 1.
You need to use the spin HD with a windows OS, to use SE.
I suggest using the cd method for SSD flash. You can get FW 1.5 download at OCZ forums site. There are many gudes available as well.
Get all software ready to go on disks before you begin process.

ps: there is a technique called "Tony Trim", if you do not want to flash, this might help. Flashing to FW 1.5 should not damage SSD data, you do not need to re-install OS because of flash. But you said there was some issues above and if your prepared right, its worth the effort to begin anew.
SE'ing the SSD is primary importance if you go full route!
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26 Apr 2010   #4
Sanvean

Windows 7 Professional 64
 
 

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26 Apr 2010   #5
exia

Windows 7 x64
 
 

OCZ forums is too big for me to take, not gonna spend hours reading thru that mess. I just want to flash to 1.5 and be done with it, how do I do it?
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26 Apr 2010   #6
spyknee

W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32
 
 

Goto OCZ site and read. If it does not work out for you, you'll be mad at the advisor!
The info is all there, FW 1.5 zip file is there. SE zip file is there. When you have a specific question, I'll try and answer it, but read the info dern it!

ps: 30secs to navigate to where the info is.
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26 Apr 2010   #7
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by spyknee View Post
Goto OCZ site and read. If it does not work out for you, you'll be mad at the advisor!
The info is all there, FW 1.5 zip file is there. SE zip file is there. When you have a specific question, I'll try and answer it, but read the info dern it!

ps: 30secs to navigate to where the info is.
As a little service to the OP and others, could you post the links, please.
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26 Apr 2010   #8
Sanvean

Windows 7 Professional 64
 
 

Here is the FW guide and at bottom includes FW zipfile:
This thread has the 1.5 FW update for Agility and Vertex drives
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26 Apr 2010   #9
exia

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Thanks, I'll check it out.

I still have two questions for those who are familiar with SSDs and Windows 7.

"What about this wiper.exe program? I downloaded it and tried to run it but it won't let me...And I right Windows 7 automatically takes care of SSDs, how can I be sure that?"
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27 Apr 2010   #10
Sanvean

Windows 7 Professional 64
 
 

Hi exia!
I would have gotten a link for you quicker, but I just got home from work a bit ago.

If you install Windows 7 as a fresh install on a ssd, it will align the partitions correctly, xp you have to jump thru some hoops.

The following is taken directly from OCZ (Posted by Tony Offical OCZ staff):
1 I check the board is in AHCI mode, if no option is available there is nothing you can do.

2 I check if S1 and S3 sleep are supported in bios, I usually set S1 but S3 should be ok also....if they are not in bios there is nothing you can do

3 I check ACPI 2.0 is in bios and enabled, if its not in bios there is nothing you can do

4 I boot to 32bit win7 RC1 on USB which also has Sanitary Erase on the USB drive. I run SE off the USB drive using the CMD window within the win7 installer. if the drives are brand new i do not bother with this step.

5 I then power off, swap USB drives to 64bit win7 final and I Install win7 off this new USB drive ( I do this is its much faster than off DVD, but you can use DVD)

6 I let win7 installer create and format the partition, all i do is hit NEXT even though the installer sees the drive and reports the drive space is RAW. Win7 will create a primary partition and quick format all on its own.

7 I use win7 native AHCI driver for both AMD and INTEL systems.

8 Install takes 10mins tops, i then load Video and Sound drivers and any LAN driver I may need.

9 The tweaks:

Disable Superfetch

Disable Defrag scheduler

Disable drive Indexing (Drive properties uncheck last option at bottom)


I'm an Intel ssd user, but from my surfing on the OCZ site, garbage collection will happen if you let the system set at the login screen for about a few hours a week.

I just found this:
"For use within windows 7 there is absolutely no maintenance needed apart from allowing the machine to idle at the login screen for a few hours each week, this allows the garbage collection time to recover the drive and free up space TRIM has not been able to deal with. For all other windows based OS with no TRIM support...The simple answer is an application called Wiper.exe."

So it seems exia, you don't need to run wiper if you run Win7!
Another suggestion after you install Windows 7 on an ssd, is to run the WEI bench, this verify it's detected correctly. Platter drives only go as high as 5.9, ssds 7.+

I know you already have it installed, but included the extra for other folks.
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