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05-16-2010
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#11 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by surfasb For Thunderstorms, spend $50 on a good powerstrip from APC. If lightning hits a power strip, even the most expensive home one, it will fry it and everything on it. In a lightning storm, it's best just to unplug everything. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Jonathan King OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD Athlon Dual Core Processor 4850e overclocked @ 2.90 GHz Motherboard ASRock A780 FullDisplayPort Memory 6.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 290MHz Crucial Technology Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 SuperClocked+ Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2x Acer S273HLbmii 27" Screen Resolution 2 x 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wired Desktop 500 (PS/2) Mouse Microsoft Wired Desktop 500 (USB) PSU Corsair HW Series 750w Modular Case Antec 300 Cooling stock cpu, 120mm hard drive bay fan Hard Drives WD 320GB SATA, Hitachi 1TB SATA, Samsung 1.5TB SATA Internet Speed 25 Mb/s download; 1 Mb/s upload |
05-16-2010
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#12 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Aphelion 
Quote: Originally Posted by Sean1082 Thanks for all you're great replies. I did notice that battery on the motherboard and was sure it kept information as what was mentioned. I was just wondering if It was more wear on the PSU to leave it on rather than turning it off. But yeh, I always unplug it during thunder storms.
Thanks again guys
Sean For electronic components.. it's less wear to leave them on.
Ap Always been my understanding and practice as well.
Supposedly more wear & tear on mechanical drives turning them on & off.
I agree with the others & also usually pull the power in lightning storms however. (even though I do have a power strip)
Speaking of:
I have heard that turning the PC complete off for say 8hrs a day, and then back on daily actually uses the same or more power. thast it best left on in this respect as well.
Any one know if this is true? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k (4.5Ghz) Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 2x4GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks (@1866) Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SuperClocked (1280MB) Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T (SE White) Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives [OS SSD]Intel 320 (80GB) -- Intel X25-V (40GB) --WD Black (1TB)x2 -- WD Blue (640GB) Other Info LG BD/DVD |
05-16-2010
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#13 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster 
Quote: Originally Posted by Aphelion 
Quote: Originally Posted by Sean1082 Thanks for all you're great replies. I did notice that battery on the motherboard and was sure it kept information as what was mentioned. I was just wondering if It was more wear on the PSU to leave it on rather than turning it off. But yeh, I always unplug it during thunder storms.
Thanks again guys
Sean For electronic components.. it's less wear to leave them on.
Ap Speaking of:
I have heard that turning the PC complete off for say 8hrs a day, and then back on daily actually uses the same or more power. thast it best left on in this respect as well.
Any one know if this is true? Let's go through the math. Even if we don't know the numbers, we can still figure it out.
When a computer turns back on from a cold shutdown, a few things will require more juice. The hard drive requires a bit more energy to spin up than spin normally, due to inertia.
That's the only hardware related extra energy usage. On a reboot, often times programs are shceduled to run, such as updates, virus scans, hard drive checks, etc. The additional resources demanded may use a bit more power.
Even if you left your computer off for 10 minutes, and turned it back on, the power saved during its off period would more than compensate for the additional resources used. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Jonathan King OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD Athlon Dual Core Processor 4850e overclocked @ 2.90 GHz Motherboard ASRock A780 FullDisplayPort Memory 6.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 290MHz Crucial Technology Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 SuperClocked+ Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2x Acer S273HLbmii 27" Screen Resolution 2 x 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wired Desktop 500 (PS/2) Mouse Microsoft Wired Desktop 500 (USB) PSU Corsair HW Series 750w Modular Case Antec 300 Cooling stock cpu, 120mm hard drive bay fan Hard Drives WD 320GB SATA, Hitachi 1TB SATA, Samsung 1.5TB SATA Internet Speed 25 Mb/s download; 1 Mb/s upload |
05-16-2010
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#14 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
I was somewhat on the same lines of thinking in that regard.
Thanks for the explanation | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k (4.5Ghz) Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 2x4GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks (@1866) Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SuperClocked (1280MB) Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T (SE White) Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives [OS SSD]Intel 320 (80GB) -- Intel X25-V (40GB) --WD Black (1TB)x2 -- WD Blue (640GB) Other Info LG BD/DVD |
05-16-2010
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#15 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 |
The only thing I can think of here is the tubes in an LCD monitor - Fluorescent tubes can have a much higher startup current than the running current, due to the design.
As the monitor can amount to a major segment of a PC's power usage, not so much since the CRT days of course, this may make a difference. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
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05-16-2010
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still my friends PC got fried by lightning in off and unplugged mode. weird huh | My System Specs | | OS window's 7 CPU core 2 quad Motherboard gigabyte Memory 2gb corsair Graphics Card ati hd4850 Monitor(s) Displays lg Screen Resolution 1600 X 900 Case power logic Other Info none of the spec above is accurate |
05-16-2010
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#17 | | Dual boot XP Pro SP3x86 and Win7 Pro x64 |
Jonathan_King is spot on about power-strip surge protectors. If electrical storms are really an issue your electric company can install (costly) a lightening interrupter on the "pole" that will quash any surge. Also I'd like to remind folks who might have DSL or Dialup service to unplug phone lines from the machine (or wall). Ditto re cable or satellite hook ups.
Question: does your BIOS and/or HDD have built-in "health" monitoring ability or SW? While not foolproof, such SW can signal impending HDD failure.
Monk | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Dual boot XP Pro SP3x86 and Win7 Pro x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x3 720 BE OCed to 3.3 GHz Motherboard Asus M3A79T Deluxe Memory 2x2GB OCZ OCZ2RPR10664GK PC2-8500 DDR2 Graphics Card Sapphire ATi Radeon 4830 HD x2 (XFire) Sound Card Integrated (SoundMax) Monitor(s) Displays Dual: LG L227WTG/LG M237WD Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050; 1920 x1280 Keyboard Black with lots of keys Mouse Razer Lachesis, Logitech RumbePad2, Logitech Marble PSU Zalman 750HD Modular Case Antec 900 Cooling 4 120mm, 1 200mm fans Hard Drives 3 WDC WD7501AALS-00J7B0 Internet Speed Who counts Other Info 7:1 SS |
05-16-2010
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#18 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by surfasb For Thunderstorms, spend $50 on a good powerstrip from APC. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Jonathan_King 
Quote: Originally Posted by surfasb For Thunderstorms, spend $50 on a good powerstrip from APC. If lightning hits a power strip, even the most expensive home one, it will fry it and everything on it. In a lightning storm, it's best just to unplug everything. 
Quote: Originally Posted by kucing13 still my friends PC got fried by lightning in off and unplugged mode. weird huh I live in the lightning capitol of the US. In the summer we have daily thunderstorm and at the height of rainy season we even have three or four thunderstorms a day. I have a commercial APC. It is worth the extra money and the battery backup gives me time to shut down when (not if) the power goes out. That said, when the thunder starts and the radar shows it is heading our way, I shut down and unplug.
Even when the computer is shut down and a residential power strip is turned off, a direct lightning hit on the lines close to you can travel through the power strip and computer on/off switch.
Back when I used a dialup modem, I would have a modem fried every two years or so by lightning hitting the telephone lines. I tried to remember to unplug the telephone line; but alas, sometime I forgot. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Motherboard ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5 Memory 2.50 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX 1962 wm Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB Mouse Logitec optic USB Cooling Fan based Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
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