| Windows 7: SSD's-Are they really worth it? |
17 May 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by noyb I've been wondering ....
Other than Bootup time .. and CS5 loading quicker .. What else is quicker ?? Time to install the operating system is reduced, time to back up the system is reduced, time to perform virus scans and malware scans is reduced, no need to waste time defragmenting the hard drive, and loading of video games is drastically better for me. 
Quote: Originally Posted by F1FAN also looking at that article it states that ssd's get slower over time? has this now bwwn fixed? Yes, this is pretty much what TRIM is designed to resolve. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
17 May 2010
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#22 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
Worst case scenario you'll need to flash the FW.
However, its a painless procedure & is non-destructive. meaning you can set it all up and flash after 7 is installed without issue.
Simply burn the CD, Switch bios to IDE mode, boot from it, and follow the prompts.
Mine came with an older FW version, although that may not be the case for everyone. They should however, all have FW w/TRIM support.
Last edited by Wishmaster; 18 May 2010 at 07:44 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
17 May 2010
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ok then, is it an aplication you download form intels website? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number *Custom* OS Windows 8 Pro 64 bit CPU Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.2 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 1333mhz 2x4GB Graphics Card Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 OC WindForce Sound Card VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2740L (Primary) Samsung P2450H (Secondary) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Gaming Keyboard Mouse Thermaltake TteSPORTS Theron Gaming Mouse PSU Coolmaster Silent ProM 600W Case Coolermaster HAF 912 Plus Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 612S Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 60GB (2.5) (OS+Aps)
Western Digital Caviar Blue 640GB 7200RPM (3.5) (Games)
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB 5400RPM (3.5) (Media/Data) Internet Speed 50-60Mbs (DL) 12-20Mbs (UL) BT Infinity FTTC Other Info Samsung SH-B083L 8x Blu-Ray Reader |
17 May 2010
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#24 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
Yes.
A .ISO you burn to CD and it is automated. You need only switch bios back to IDE for flash, then back to AHCI when you are finished.
Again, this is the worst case. you very well may have the current FW. none-the-less, it will support TRIM out of the box.
So it's not something that "must" be done in order to have proper functionality. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
17 May 2010
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also is my hardware ok with trim? AMD cpu and nvidia 720D chipset? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number *Custom* OS Windows 8 Pro 64 bit CPU Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.2 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 1333mhz 2x4GB Graphics Card Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 OC WindForce Sound Card VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2740L (Primary) Samsung P2450H (Secondary) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Gaming Keyboard Mouse Thermaltake TteSPORTS Theron Gaming Mouse PSU Coolmaster Silent ProM 600W Case Coolermaster HAF 912 Plus Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 612S Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 60GB (2.5) (OS+Aps)
Western Digital Caviar Blue 640GB 7200RPM (3.5) (Games)
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB 5400RPM (3.5) (Media/Data) Internet Speed 50-60Mbs (DL) 12-20Mbs (UL) BT Infinity FTTC Other Info Samsung SH-B083L 8x Blu-Ray Reader |
17 May 2010
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#26 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 - OEM Service Pack 1 Droitwich Spa, England |
Trim is software based, nothing to do with you hardware and is incorporated in to all version of Win 7. Windows will detect that you have a SSD and will enable trim, also should disable defrag.
I suggest you read this post SSD Tweaks and Optimizations in Windows 7
Steve | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Over Clockers Ultima Viper 2.80Ghz OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 - OEM Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core i7 930 2.80Ghz Bloomfield Socket LGA 1366 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 Socket 1366 DDR3 Memory Patriot Viper 6GB 3x2GB DDR3 PC3-1200C9 1600Mhz Tri Channel Graphics Card Asus ATI Radeon HD 5770 CuCore 1024MB GDDR5 PCI Express Sound Card Realtek ALC889 @ Intel 82801JB ICH10 - High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 920N 19" Screen Resolution 1280*1024 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Optical USB PSU Corsair TX 650W ATX SLi Case Antec 902 Ultimate Gaming Case Black Cooling Prolimatech Megahalems Rev B CPU Cooler Socket 775/1156/1366 Hard Drives 1 x OCZ Vertex2 Series 120GB 2.5" SATA-II SSD
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA-II 64 MB Cache Internet Speed ADSL24 FTTC 34.2 Mbps Down 7.1Mbps Up Other Info OcUK 22x DVDSATA ReWriter Black
Akasa AK-FN058 Apache Black Super Silent 120mm Fan
Printer Epson Stylus Photo R300
Scanner Canon Canoscan 8000F |
17 May 2010
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#27 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by steve-pressman Trim is software based, nothing to do with you hardware and is incorporated in to all version of Win 7. Windows will detect that you have a SSD and will enable trim, also should disable defrag.
I suggest you read this post SSD Tweaks and Optimizations in Windows 7
Steve This is true as long as the SSD controller and Firmware support Trim. But that is only the case with the never SSDs. If e.g. you have an Intel X25 G1 or an OCZ Vertex with a FW level prior to 14, you will not have any Trim - even with Windows 7. The rest of the hardware configuration , however, does not really matter. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
17 May 2010
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#28 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 Northwestern Pennsylvania |
As for the slowness after time, that mostly affected GEN 1 models. To properly maintain speeds, it is suggested (depending on usage) to run/schedule Intels Toolbox optimizer once a week. OCZ has something similar called "Garbage Collection", this is run by letting your system idle at logon for a few hours a week. Using these procedures for the last few months, my drive is still as fast as the first day I installed it (benchmarked it yesterday).
As for SATA III 6GB SSD, they are still in infancy. There is two models on Newegg from Crucial, but reports are that they are extremely buggy (firmware) and extremely expensive $400 128GB and $679 256GB.
Intel's Gen 3 are rumored to be coming out next winter.
Last edited by Sanvean; 18 May 2010 at 12:52 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS Windows 7 Professional 64 CPU i7 860 Motherboard ASUS P7P55D-E Pro /onboard SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Memory 8GB Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 DDR3 1600 Graphics Card (2) Nvidia EVGA GTX 470 SLI Sound Card Onboard VIA VT1828S 8 channels Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VW266H 25.5" HDMI Widescreen LCD and HP vs19 LCD 19" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 : 1280 X 1024 dual Keyboard Saitek Mouse Microsoft Optical comfort mouse 3000 PSU COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 1000W Case LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Prolimatech Megahalems with Scythe "ULTRA KAZE" 120 Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB SSD (boot)
Seagate Barracuda 80GB
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB
Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Internet Speed Comcast Ultra tier 30/5 |
18 May 2010
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can you use the "garbage collection" on the intel drives? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number *Custom* OS Windows 8 Pro 64 bit CPU Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.2 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 1333mhz 2x4GB Graphics Card Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 OC WindForce Sound Card VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2740L (Primary) Samsung P2450H (Secondary) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Gaming Keyboard Mouse Thermaltake TteSPORTS Theron Gaming Mouse PSU Coolmaster Silent ProM 600W Case Coolermaster HAF 912 Plus Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 612S Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 60GB (2.5) (OS+Aps)
Western Digital Caviar Blue 640GB 7200RPM (3.5) (Games)
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB 5400RPM (3.5) (Media/Data) Internet Speed 50-60Mbs (DL) 12-20Mbs (UL) BT Infinity FTTC Other Info Samsung SH-B083L 8x Blu-Ray Reader |
18 May 2010
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#30 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 - OEM Service Pack 1 Droitwich Spa, England |
WHS, You are of course quite correct, I apologise for my mis-information
Steve | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Over Clockers Ultima Viper 2.80Ghz OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 - OEM Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core i7 930 2.80Ghz Bloomfield Socket LGA 1366 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 Socket 1366 DDR3 Memory Patriot Viper 6GB 3x2GB DDR3 PC3-1200C9 1600Mhz Tri Channel Graphics Card Asus ATI Radeon HD 5770 CuCore 1024MB GDDR5 PCI Express Sound Card Realtek ALC889 @ Intel 82801JB ICH10 - High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 920N 19" Screen Resolution 1280*1024 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Optical USB PSU Corsair TX 650W ATX SLi Case Antec 902 Ultimate Gaming Case Black Cooling Prolimatech Megahalems Rev B CPU Cooler Socket 775/1156/1366 Hard Drives 1 x OCZ Vertex2 Series 120GB 2.5" SATA-II SSD
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA-II 64 MB Cache Internet Speed ADSL24 FTTC 34.2 Mbps Down 7.1Mbps Up Other Info OcUK 22x DVDSATA ReWriter Black
Akasa AK-FN058 Apache Black Super Silent 120mm Fan
Printer Epson Stylus Photo R300
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