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21 Jul 2010
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Raid 1 ? I want to set up 2 WD 640 GB spinners in a RAID 1 array for storage, my 1st attempt at a RAID 1 array. As I understand it, RAID 1 writes the same data to each HD, therefore creating 2 identical drives. 2X safety for files.
I am wondering:
1. could each drive be removed from the array and used separately?
2. if 1 fails, the other is still readable in the array?
My purpose for this is to have 2 copies of my files on separate drives for obvious safety reasons. I currently copy from one drive to another, not good if I forget to copy something and a drive fails.
ETA - title of post should be RAID 1 ?, not Raid i ? 
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21 Jul 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate La Crosse, WI |

Quote: Originally Posted by 24c
1. could each drive be removed from the array and used separately?
2. if 1 fails, the other is still readable in the array? 1. Absolutely
2. There wouldn't be much use of RAID 1 if it wouldn't be, eh? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Athlon II X2 245 2.90Ghz Motherboard Some Gigabyte one, dont remember model Memory 3.00 GB Graphics Card 8800GTS 512MB Sound Card Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Monitor(s) Displays Dual 22" widescreen Keyboard Saitek Eclipse 2 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W Power Supply Case Thermalkake Tsunami Dream Cooling Thermaltake Golden Orb II Hard Drives 250GB internal, 500GB internal |
21 Jul 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirsch 
Quote: Originally Posted by 24c
1. could each drive be removed from the array and used separately?
2. if 1 fails, the other is still readable in the array? 1. Absolutely
2. There wouldn't be much use of RAID 1 if it wouldn't be, eh?  Thanks, just checking. Sometimes I don't know what I think I know, and what I think I know is just plain wrong. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number 24c Built OS Win7 x64 Ult CPU Intel i7-950 Motherboard ASUS PT6 Memory 12 GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA 9800GT+ Sound Card none Monitor(s) Displays 2 Samsung SyncMaster 2343bwx Screen Resolution 2048X1152 Keyboard Logitech cordless Mouse Logitech cordless PSU Thermaltake Toughpower XT W0229RU 750W Case Antec 900 Cooling case fans Hard Drives 1st-4 OCZ Vertex Turbos 32GB RAID 0
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21 Jul 2010
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Keep in mind with RAID 1 that while you do have 2 copies of the data...in the event that you accidentally delete a file or get a virus and it corrupts a file that it's going to corrupt both copies of the file at the same time.
I prefer having data redundancy on an external hard drive that I can keep offsite. This way if somebody steals the computer or my house burns down...I don't lose my backup copy at the exact same time. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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21 Jul 2010
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@paprks1
I wanted to make the RAID 1 include 1 internal, 1 external drive, but I can't do that unless I get a real long SATA cable so I can connect the external drive to an internal SATA port. I think this correct anyway.
I do have an external drive case I'm using now, and after I get the RAID 1 set up, I may be able to copy to the external drive once a week or so for just such situations as you mentioned. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number 24c Built OS Win7 x64 Ult CPU Intel i7-950 Motherboard ASUS PT6 Memory 12 GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA 9800GT+ Sound Card none Monitor(s) Displays 2 Samsung SyncMaster 2343bwx Screen Resolution 2048X1152 Keyboard Logitech cordless Mouse Logitech cordless PSU Thermaltake Toughpower XT W0229RU 750W Case Antec 900 Cooling case fans Hard Drives 1st-4 OCZ Vertex Turbos 32GB RAID 0
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21 Jul 2010
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Sure, just wanted to make it clear that RAID was not a substitute for backup. So many people forget that and are left with a bad taste in their mouth when they lose their data and thought they were protected. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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21 Jul 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate La Crosse, WI |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 Sure, just wanted to make it clear that RAID was not a substitute for backup. So many people forget that and are left with a bad taste in their mouth when they lose their data and through they were protected. Correct, and incorrect. I like your wording in your previous post.
It DOES backup against failed hard-drives (unless, obviously, both fail).
So.. RAID 1 can be considered a backup for faulty hardware.. how does that sound? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Athlon II X2 245 2.90Ghz Motherboard Some Gigabyte one, dont remember model Memory 3.00 GB Graphics Card 8800GTS 512MB Sound Card Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Monitor(s) Displays Dual 22" widescreen Keyboard Saitek Eclipse 2 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W Power Supply Case Thermalkake Tsunami Dream Cooling Thermaltake Golden Orb II Hard Drives 250GB internal, 500GB internal |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirsch 
Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 Sure, just wanted to make it clear that RAID was not a substitute for backup. So many people forget that and are left with a bad taste in their mouth when they lose their data and through they were protected. Correct, and incorrect. I like your wording in your previous post.
It DOES backup against failed hard-drives (unless, obviously, both fail).
So.. RAID 1 can be considered a backup for faulty hardware.. how does that sound?  RAID is never a backup....it's redundancy....they are 2 different things. For example, get a virus on your machine. Then try to use your "backup" drive from your RAID set to see if things are fine.
RAID 1 is really necessary when uptime is critical. Suffice it to say that nothing in my home "has" to be up and operational. I can suffer from some downtime if my server crashes and I have to reload the OS. However, I cannot recover very easily if I don't have a backup of my data. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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21 Jul 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate La Crosse, WI |
RAID 1 can be considered a backup against a faulty hard drive, that's all I am saying. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Athlon II X2 245 2.90Ghz Motherboard Some Gigabyte one, dont remember model Memory 3.00 GB Graphics Card 8800GTS 512MB Sound Card Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Monitor(s) Displays Dual 22" widescreen Keyboard Saitek Eclipse 2 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W Power Supply Case Thermalkake Tsunami Dream Cooling Thermaltake Golden Orb II Hard Drives 250GB internal, 500GB internal |
21 Jul 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kirsch RAID 1 can be considered a backup against a faulty hard drive, that's all I am saying. RAID 1 can save you in the 1 and only 1 instance that a hard drive fails. That is true. As a server admin for a living, I never utilize the terms RAID and backup to be interchangeable in any way. They are very different concepts. While you do understand this...other's don't. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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