| Windows 7: Moving my rig into new Full tower case. |
21 Jul 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Moving my rig into new Full tower case. Questions:
1) Going with Corsair H50 water cooler with dual 120mm fans.
Must I draw are from outside and exhaust inside case or can I get good results drawing air inside and exhausting outside ? CPU = AMD Phenom X4 9950 2.6 quad black edition.
2) May I unplug all my sata devices and hard drives and when building back in new case must I arrange the cables in the same ports to be seen or should the system see where the OS drive is and such no matter where there plugged into ? Oh FYI 3 drives internal non raid, drive 1 has Win 7 Ult. 64 and files, drive 2 has Win XP Pro 32 and files, drive 3 has all lossless music files.
3) New case is the Thermaltake Element V Black. FYI
Thanks in advance to all that answer me ! | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
22 Jul 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 The Golden State |
For your first question, you may have to play around with the config to see what gives you the best temps. The instructions state to mount the fans so that they intake air into the case (mounted in the rear).
I have a Cooler Master HAF 932 -- I have mounted the H50 and fans in the rear intaking air and exhausting air. I have also mounted the radiator and fans at the top of the case intaking and exhausting. After all of that, the best temps I get are with the fans exhausting and mounted in the rear of the case.
I don't have an answer at the moment for your second question. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Rig 1 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition @ 3.4GHz (AM2+) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P (AM2+) Memory Corsair CM2X4096-8500C5 (4 X 2GB) Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5770 / Diamond Radeon HD 5770 CrossFireX Sound Card Asus Xonar DS (PCI) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 932bw+ (3) Screen Resolution 4320x900 Keyboard Logitech Desktop Wave Mouse Logitech LX8 Laser PSU Corsair CMPSU-750TX Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Corsair Hydro Series H50 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 80 GB - Windows 7 System --
WD Caviar Black 1TB - Music, Movies, Vids, Pics --
WD Caviar Black 640GB - User Profiles & Games --
WD My Book 320GB external Internet Speed 20 down / 2 up Other Info LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray / HDDVD combo --
Hauppauge HVR-1250 --
Silverstone MFP-51 --
Logitech Webcam C600 |
22 Jul 2010
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#3 | | MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit |
I tried lots of configurations with my H50 and personally found I got the best temps with just the one 120mm fan drawing air in to the unit getting my Phenom II x4 965 3.4 down as low as 25C! I have two 120mm fans at the front of my case and one 80mm in the side all exhausting. As for your second question.I'm not 100% but I don't think it matters. I have taken bits and pieces out of mine and put them in different ports before and had it work flawlessly. | My System Specs | | OS MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit |
22 Jul 2010
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#4 | | Windows 8 Pro x64 Sydney, Australia |
Question 2; The boot order of the hard drives is controlled by the bios in newer motherboards not where they are plugged in.
You need to enter the bios and set the the boot order to what you want e.g. Floppy/cd/hard drive, then you need to set the hard drive with the OS on it to first boot hard drive.
Bottom line is if you make a diagram of where you unplugged everything and plug them back in the same places you will not have to do this. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built Custom Computer. OS Windows 8 Pro x64 CPU QX6850 Quad Extreme Motherboard Gigabyte GA EP45-UD3LR Memory 6Gig DDR2-800 Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX 550 TI Sound Card Creative Audigy SE (SB0570) Sound Card Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW222 [22" LCD] and Benq 2200w [22" LCD] Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech illuminated keyboard Mouse Logitech M950 PSU Corsair TX 750watt Case Coolermaster Haf - X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P CPU Cooler Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 128g SSD
OCZ Vertex 3 60GB SSD
1xWestern Digital Caviar Green 1tb
2xWestern Digital Caviar Green 2 tb Internet Speed Cable = speeds to 20Mbps downsteam and 512kbps upsteam Antivirus Avast Internet Security Browser Firefox |
22 Jul 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Perfect that makes sense ! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
22 Jul 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit Victoria, Australia |
A rule of thumb with all builds I do is, fans mounted on the front of the case are for blowing air into the case. Rear fans are for blowing the air out of the case. Side mounted also for blowing air out of the case.
Top mounted alsom for blowing air out.
I have only built a few wayer cooled systems, but what I found was, having fresh air going through the radiator is always best. Mounting the radiator in the optical drive bay at the top (if the case has a top mounted fan setup for extraction) would be ideal as it will receive fresh air and the hot air will be drawn out by the top mounted fan. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number I'll Fix IT Computers OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit CPU Intel Core 2 Quad 9400 2.66Ghz @ 3.20 Motherboard Asus P5QL-E Memory 4Gb (2x2g) Kingston HyperX 1066Mhz Dual Channel @ 2.3v Graphics Card Gigabyte HD5670 1Gig no o/c Sound Card On board Monitor(s) Displays Screen1 = Samsung 953BW Screen 2 = Samsung 943BW Screen Resolution Screen 1 @ 1440x900 Screen 2 @ 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU Coolermaster 550w Case Coolermaster RC-332 Cooling Front 120mm, Rear 120mm, side (VGA card vent) 80mm Hard Drives Seagate SataII 500Gb 7200 Rpm Internet Speed Bigpond Wireless Broadband (variable speeds up to 7Mbps) Other Info Thermaltake Max Orb II CPU Fan @ 2000rpm |
29 Jul 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Thanks to all who wrote with there knowledge and ideas. The build when crazy good started at 7:00pm and went to 2:00am the next day...lol. Quit at 2:00 and took a good look in the morning then fired up, found a couple of issues like I'd moved my wireless card from one slot to the other and had to move it back to work. Wired up all the drives just as before and it booted flawless. I didn't have long enough power cables for the drives and 12V board but all in all it came out tidy ! What say you ? Cheers to all !  Old Ultra case  Old internals  New Thermaltake Element V  New Top view note filtered air in and 200mm out  New layout for internals | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
29 Jul 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, Windows 8 Pro x64 Florida, USA |
If you are using RAID, then which ports you use will matter. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, Windows 8 Pro x64 CPU INTEL Core i7 3820 LGA 2011 Motherboard Gigabyte GA X79 UD5 v1.0 F13s Memory 16 GB (4 X 4GB) G-Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3 2133 Quad Channel Graphics Card EVGA GTX 460 SC 1GB Sound Card Realtek Onboard ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung BX2431 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Explorer Mouse PSU Corsair HX1000W Case Thermaltake Armor+ Cooling INTEL BXRTS2011LC Liquid-cooled Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 4 120GB 2.5 in. SSD FW 1.5
3x OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5 in. SSD FW 2.25
4 x WD 2002FAEX SATA
4xWD 7501AALS SATA Internet Speed 6.0 Mb/s |
30 Jul 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit NC |
The Key to using fans is to have an even pressurized (balanced) air flow. This means the same amount of air intake as air exhaust as a basic rule. To much air intake is a positive air pressure and to much air exhaust is a negative air pressure. Too much of one or the other can harm your system. Of course you can tweak the fan settings for optimal cooling. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Motherboard Asus M4N78 Pro Memory GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500 Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 6790 D Sound Card On board VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dual monitors:Samsung SyncMaster S20B300 Screen Resolution 1600 X 900 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Razor DeathAdder PSU Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular Case Thermaltake Overseer RX 1 full tower Cooling Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB Internet Speed 50/5 Mbps UL/DL Other Info Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800 |
31 Jul 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Thank for the info. The fans total 11 including the ps and gpu. Maybe someone out there can answer this question. The H50 water cooler asks that you not plug it's fan into the cpu fan header. But with out a fan plugged into it when I use the software to check the CPU tempts the software goes freekin nuts with out detecting any rpms on the CPU ! Any thoughts, like plug any fan into it? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
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