1) Going with Corsair H50 water cooler with dual 120mm fans.
Must I draw are from outside and exhaust inside case or can I get good results drawing air inside and exhausting outside ? CPU = AMD Phenom X4 9950 2.6 quad black edition.
2) May I unplug all my sata devices and hard drives and when building back in new case must I arrange the cables in the same ports to be seen or should the system see where the OS drive is and such no matter where there plugged into ? Oh FYI 3 drives internal non raid, drive 1 has Win 7 Ult. 64 and files, drive 2 has Win XP Pro 32 and files, drive 3 has all lossless music files.
3) New case is the Thermaltake Element V Black. FYI
Thanks in advance to all that answer me !
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 7 Ultimate 64i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 ...32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
For your first question, you may have to play around with the config to see what gives you the best temps. The instructions state to mount the fans so that they intake air into the case (mounted in the rear).
I have a Cooler Master HAF 932 -- I have mounted the H50 and fans in the rear intaking air and exhausting air. I have also mounted the radiator and fans at the top of the case intaking and exhausting. After all of that, the best temps I get are with the fans exhausting and mounted in the rear of the case.
I don't have an answer at the moment for your second question.
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 7 Ultimate x64AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition @ 3.4GHz (...Corsair CM2X4096-8500C5 (4 X 2GB)XFX Radeon HD 5770 / Diamond Radeon HD 5770 C...
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Rig 1
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition @ 3.4GHz (AM2+)
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P (AM2+)
Memory
Corsair CM2X4096-8500C5 (4 X 2GB)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 5770 / Diamond Radeon HD 5770 CrossFireX
Sound Card
Asus Xonar DS (PCI)
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 932bw+ (3)
Screen Resolution
4320x900
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 2 80 GB - Windows 7 System --
WD Caviar Black 1TB - Music, Movies, Vids, Pics --
WD Caviar Black 640GB - User Profiles & Games --
WD My Book 320GB external
PSU
Corsair CMPSU-750TX
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932
Cooling
Corsair Hydro Series H50
Keyboard
Logitech Desktop Wave
Mouse
Logitech LX8 Laser
Internet Speed
20 down / 2 up
Other Info
LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray / HDDVD combo --
Hauppauge HVR-1250 --
Silverstone MFP-51 --
Logitech Webcam C600
I tried lots of configurations with my H50 and personally found I got the best temps with just the one 120mm fan drawing air in to the unit getting my Phenom II x4 965 3.4 down as low as 25C! I have two 120mm fans at the front of my case and one 80mm in the side all exhausting.
As for your second question.I'm not 100% but I don't think it matters. I have taken bits and pieces out of mine and put them in different ports before and had it work flawlessly.
Question 2; The boot order of the hard drives is controlled by the bios in newer motherboards not where they are plugged in.
You need to enter the bios and set the the boot order to what you want e.g. Floppy/cd/hard drive, then you need to set the hard drive with the OS on it to first boot hard drive.
Bottom line is if you make a diagram of where you unplugged everything and plug them back in the same places you will not have to do this.
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 10 Pro x64i7-4770K16Gig DDR3-2400Gigabyte GT740
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built Custom Computer.
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
i7-4770K
Motherboard
Asus Z87 Sabertooth
Memory
16Gig DDR3-2400
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GT740
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Benq 27" - Dell 23' - Benq 22"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 128g SSD
1xWestern Digital Caviar Green 1tb
2xWestern Digital Caviar Green 2 tb
PSU
Seasonic 760 watt Platinum
Case
Coolermaster Haf - X
Cooling
Noctua NH-C12P CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Logitech illuminated keyboard
Mouse
Logitech Perfomance MX
Internet Speed
Cable = speeds to 20Mbps downsteam and 512kbps upsteam
Windows 7 Ultimate 64i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 ...32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
A rule of thumb with all builds I do is, fans mounted on the front of the case are for blowing air into the case. Rear fans are for blowing the air out of the case. Side mounted also for blowing air out of the case.
Top mounted alsom for blowing air out.
I have only built a few wayer cooled systems, but what I found was, having fresh air going through the radiator is always best. Mounting the radiator in the optical drive bay at the top (if the case has a top mounted fan setup for extraction) would be ideal as it will receive fresh air and the hot air will be drawn out by the top mounted fan.
Thanks to all who wrote with there knowledge and ideas. The build when crazy good started at 7:00pm and went to 2:00am the next day...lol. Quit at 2:00 and took a good look in the morning then fired up, found a couple of issues like I'd moved my wireless card from one slot to the other and had to move it back to work. Wired up all the drives just as before and it booted flawless. I didn't have long enough power cables for the drives and 12V board but all in all it came out tidy ! What say you ? Cheers to all ! Old Ultra case
Old internals
New Thermaltake Element V
New Top view note filtered air in and 200mm out
New layout for internals
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 7 Ultimate 64i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 ...32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
The Key to using fans is to have an even pressurized (balanced) air flow. This means the same amount of air intake as air exhaust as a basic rule. To much air intake is a positive air pressure and to much air exhaust is a negative air pressure. Too much of one or the other can harm your system. Of course you can tweak the fan settings for optimal cooling.
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bitAMD Phenom II X4 965 Black EditionGSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500XFX Radeon HD 6790 D
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
Memory
GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 6790 D
Sound Card
On board RealTek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual monitors:Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
Screen Resolution
1600 X 900
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB
PSU
Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
Case
Thermaltake Overseer RX 1 full tower
Cooling
Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Razor DeathAdder
Internet Speed
50/5 Mbps UL/DL
Other Info
Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800
Thank for the info. The fans total 11 including the ps and gpu. Maybe someone out there can answer this question. The H50 water cooler asks that you not plug it's fan into the cpu fan header. But with out a fan plugged into it when I use the software to check the CPU tempts the software goes freekin nuts with out detecting any rpms on the CPU ! Any thoughts, like plug any fan into it?
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 7 Ultimate 64i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 ...32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
Logitech Z2300 Speakers/ Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones/Avermedia PCI-e Hybrid TV Bravo/Epson NX415 all in one/ 4 Port Powered USB Hub/ LG 10x Bluray Burner /TSST Corp DVDRW External
The H50 water cooler asks that you not plug it's fan into the cpu fan header. But with out a fan plugged into it when I use the software to check the CPU tempts the software goes freekin nuts with out detecting any rpms on the CPU ! Any thoughts, like plug any fan into it?
And the tweaking continues. See new dual bay SSD dock, new dueling Lite on DVD drives. Inside I've moved the spot fan and reorganized all cabling. Need to get a 12v extension cable and then some molex extensions and I will go for as much behind the mobo as possible. If possible a Crucial SSD via Sata III and then she's done for quite some time other than possibly dual monitors ! Please someone stop me !
My Computer
At a glance
Windows 7 Ultimate 64i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 ...32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
