| Windows 7: Getting ready to install Win 7 on SSD |
16 Aug 2010
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Getting ready to install Win 7 on SSD I am getting ready to install Win 7 on to a brand new Vertex 2 SSD to put in to my Samsung NC10 netbook. One thing that I have been reading about is setting BIOS to enable AHCI mode, but the downside is that my BIOS does not have a way for me to set that. I know the unit is capable of it because in older BIOS firmwares you could access hidden settings to change it.
Anyway, is there another way for me to enable AHCI after installing Win 7? Also, does anyone else have any other suggestions about settings or do's/don'ts for installing Win 7 on a SSD?
Thanks! | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Home Premium |
16 Aug 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 - OEM Service Pack 1 Droitwich Spa, England |
Our excellent tutorial from the Bare Foot Kid SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation[2]=Hardware%20and%20Drivers
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Hmm, I am not so sure that is the optimum way to install Windows on a SSD. From everything that I have read, it is not a good idea to ever really do a full format on a SSD due to the limit number of write commands for each cell of the drive. It is always best to do a quick format.
I am not looking to format the drive at all really either since it is a brand new drive. I will just be using the quick format or whatever Win 7 does to install on a new drive.
Also, I don't see anything in that tutorial about AHCI mode. It looks like all that tutorial really does is tells you how to change boot order and do a full format if the OS doesn't give you the option as part of the install. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium |
16 Aug 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit Virginia |
I could have sworn I posted in this thread, but something might have gone wrong.
Some computers have AHCI mode on by default as might be the case with your computer. I would definitely think is the case on a netbook.
That tutorial does have the best method for installing on any drive, especially SSDs. Another thing, all drives have a limit on what they can do. A HDD for example can only spin up and down so many times. SDDs are not fragile by any means and even without taking any steps to reduce the amount of reads and writes made to it, will last for many years. Writing zeros to each sector once will certainly do even less to it than installing the OS. A quick format definitely won't do as good of a job as what is recommended in that article. For optimal performance from your new SSD, use the tutorial. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba P775-S7100 OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2450M @2.5 GHz Memory 6 GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Monitor(s) Displays Built-in 17.3" LED; 22" Insignia NS-L22Q-10A Screen Resolution 1600x900; 1360x768 Hard Drives 750 GB Hitachi
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16 Aug 2010
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#5 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |

Quote: Originally Posted by xceebeex Hmm, I am not so sure that is the optimum way to install Windows on a SSD. From everything that I have read, it is not a good idea to ever really do a full format on a SSD due to the limit number of write commands for each cell of the drive. It is always best to do a quick format.
I am not looking to format the drive at all really either since it is a brand new drive. I will just be using the quick format or whatever Win 7 does to install on a new drive.
Also, I don't see anything in that tutorial about AHCI mode. It looks like all that tutorial really does is tells you how to change boot order and do a full format if the OS doesn't give you the option as part of the install. The tutorial doesn't offer a ful format, but DISKPART's Clean All command which writes zeros to overwrite any factory code or possible infection. If your HD is new then you don't need to write zeroes to it, just use installer to partition as you wish and normal quick format before install.
It's strange that a new BIOS version doesn't offer AHCI whereas older one's did. I would query your computer maker tech support as to why. | My System Specs | | |
17 Aug 2010
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#6 | | W 7 64-bit Ultimate The Lowcountry |
Hello xceebeex, welcome to Seven Forums
Just install Windows and let it do what needs done to the SSD during the install.
You don't want to do a "clean all" to a brand new SSD as it may hinder the original performance of the SSD, which is lost anyway as soon as the drive has been used for a very short time and is one of the reasons for the tutorial; the command is best when a SSD / HDD needs to be "cleaned" for various reasons like virus infection or old driver corruption.
Another reason it was written is for people that don't want the 100MB "System, Active" boot partition to be added during the install that happens automatically when Windows is installed to the space on an unallocated SSD / HDD. .
Last edited by Bare Foot Kid; 17 Aug 2010 at 04:47 AM..
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Thanks for the clarification. Are there any other recommended setting changes or anything like that for optimum SSD performance? Also, what are peoples thoughts on sleep/hibernate? I have heard that some drives don't like either mode. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium |
17 Aug 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 - OEM Service Pack 1 Droitwich Spa, England |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Over Clockers Ultima Viper 2.80Ghz OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 - OEM Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core i7 930 2.80Ghz Bloomfield Socket LGA 1366 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 Socket 1366 DDR3 Memory Patriot Viper 6GB 3x2GB DDR3 PC3-1200C9 1600Mhz Tri Channel Graphics Card Asus ATI Radeon HD 5770 CuCore 1024MB GDDR5 PCI Express Sound Card Realtek ALC889 @ Intel 82801JB ICH10 - High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 920N 19" Screen Resolution 1280*1024 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Optical USB PSU Corsair TX 650W ATX SLi Case Antec 902 Ultimate Gaming Case Black Cooling Prolimatech Megahalems Rev B CPU Cooler Socket 775/1156/1366 Hard Drives 1 x OCZ Vertex2 Series 120GB 2.5" SATA-II SSD
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA-II 64 MB Cache Internet Speed ADSL24 FTTC 34.2 Mbps Down 7.1Mbps Up Other Info OcUK 22x DVDSATA ReWriter Black
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17 Aug 2010
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#9 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
If you do not use hibernation, you might want to delete the hiberfile to save a few GBs on the SSD. You do this in elevated cmd with this command: powercfg.exe -h off Other than that, you really have to do nothing. Just double check that Defrag is set to off, and I recommend to leave Superfetch on. And do not wory too much about wearing the SSD out with writes. It will not happen in your lifetime. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
17 Aug 2010
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Well it doesn't look like AHCI is enabled by default so I am not sure what to do from here. Samsung decided to remove the option in the BIOS to enable AHCI for some strange reason. I might be able to downgrade the firmware to the version that allows me to enable it, but do I really have to?
If I just install the drivers would that essentially enable it? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium Getting ready to install Win 7 on SSD problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:11 PM. | |