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Windows 7: HP laptop has used up all four primary partitions


10 Sep 2010   #11

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
If you have favorite apps you want to extract from the HP recovery disks like WOrks, then you can use this method: HP 3rd Party Software After Clean Win 7 Install
gregrocker

I have had a look at the two videos and it seems an incredibly complicated and lengthy procedure.

This is probably a silly question but is it not possible somehow to copy folders from my present C:\SwSetup directory and then paste them somewhere - not too sure where - into my fresh install of Windows 7 (once I get round to attempting it that is) and run the various Windows Installers? Or is that a complete no no?

One program I would definitely like to try and keep is the CyberLink DVD Suite, but unfortunately HP do not seem to offer this as a download for my particular laptop on their support website.

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10 Sep 2010   #12
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I always back up SWsetup to save time reinstalling drivers. But I don't know if any HP system utilities you may want are in there. The only thing I would want off of the Recov disks myself is Works, which I already have. You may want to use the extraction method to get Cyberlink off of them.
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11 Sep 2010   #13

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
You may want to use the extraction method to get Cyberlink off of them.
OK, thanks. I'll probably give that a try. It just struck me as rather excessive having to download the entire Windows Automated Installation Kit to do this when all that is needed (I believe) is imagex and WIM driver.
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11 Sep 2010   #14
whs
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Since I am a lazy guy, I would not go thru all that trouble. I would backup the content of the tools partition, delete that partition and create a new extended partition. Then you can make many additional logical partitions. You can then still move the tools stuff back into one of those partitions.

Another alternative would be to delete the recovery partition. But that is a less attractive solution because you can never be sure whether the recovery DVDs that you burnt do really work. It is always reassuring to have the recovery partition as a backup. You could, of course, create an image of your system (even on DVD). Then you would have an extra backup.

And if you have difficulties doing that with Disk Management (which in principle should work), use this program. Especially the bootable CD version is handy to have.
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11 Sep 2010   #15

 

whs

Yes, but the Tools partition is only 103 MB in size so surely that is an absolute non-starter for creating an extended partition in?

If I deleted the Recovery partition (13.56 GB in size) that would make enough free space to create an extended partition with two logicals to install Linux in. And, if Disk Management/Diskpart permitted it, I could also shrink the adjacent C: partition to make even more space for the extended partition. However, I have had problems in the past using Disk Management to shrink C: partitions. Sometimes, depending on immovable system files on that partition, there is a limit to how much you can shrink.

So far I have created the HP recovery DVDs plus a Macrium Reflect image backup of the entire drive so hopefully one at least of these will work should I need them.

Thanks for the link to Partition Wizard. I had not heard of this program before.
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11 Sep 2010   #16
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Marrea View Post





Thanks for the link to Partition Wizard. I had not heard of this program before.


Have a look at these then.


Partition : Recover Space Used by an Older OS

Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
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11 Sep 2010   #17
whs
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Marrea View Post
whs

Yes, but the Tools partition is only 103 MB in size so surely that is an absolute non-starter for creating an extended partition in?

If I deleted the Recovery partition (13.56 GB in size) that would make enough free space to create an extended partition with two logicals to install Linux in. And, if Disk Management/Diskpart permitted it, I could also shrink the adjacent C: partition to make even more space for the extended partition. However, I have had problems in the past using Disk Management to shrink C: partitions. Sometimes, depending on immovable system files on that partition, there is a limit to how much you can shrink.

So far I have created the HP recovery DVDs plus a Macrium Reflect image backup of the entire drive so hopefully one at least of these will work should I need them.

Thanks for the link to Partition Wizard. I had not heard of this program before.
My point was slightly different. I wanted to get you off the 4 primaries so that you could create an extended partition. Whether you did that then with the 103MBs and then shrunk more space off the C partition or whether you started with space off the C partition right away would not have mattered. The problem at hand was that you were stuck with the 4 primaries.
The problem with the Disk Management not being able to shrink beyond the MFT sitting in the middle of the partition can be overcome with Partition Wizard.
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11 Sep 2010   #18
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Tips for Cleaning Up Factory Bloatware

You can clean reinstall which is actually better than a new computer since most are larded with sponsors' bloatware: Reinstalling Windows 7

Until then you can clean up the preinstalled sponsors bloatware and useless factory utilities which have much better versions built into Windows 7, using these tips:

Uncheck everything in msconfig>Startup except AV and gadgets/sticky notes if you use them. The rest are freeloaders that can wait to start until you run them. Startup Programs - Change. (Notes: Anything Google is spyware which will track you and paste interest ads. An HP Wireless manager will need "allow independent wireless" box checked in Preferences before turning it off in order to default to Windows 7's superior wireless manager).

After several reboots enter msconfig>Services, check box to "Hide all MS services" then again uncheck everything except AV. Check back repeatedly here and in Startup list to see if anything writes itself back in - if so turn it off in its Program Preferences or Uninstall it.

You now have a clean boot.

Decide which programs you can do without over time then uninstall them.

Monitor whether bloatware uninstalls have corrupted System files by running SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker. Irreparable system files resulting in Performance problems can sometimes be remedied without reinstall by a Repair Install.

Use a lightweight free AV like MS Security Essentials or Avast 6 with the Windows Firewall to gain back performance from more bloated AV's.

Check optional Windows Updates regularly for driver updates after enabling hardware auto-updating. You can trust Updates given by Windows 7 as they rarely malfunction and keep your drivers current, OS performance updated and Firewall security fortified. .

Monitor Event Viewer>Admin View to google repeat errors text and ID# to find how others have resolved them. Check also the Performance log on Advanced Tools page accessed by clicking WEI score link at Computer>Properties. Look for cued issues at top of Tools page, Generate a System Health Report.

Type "Solutions" in Start Search box to see solutions to problems sent and not. Windows 7 is interactive so always send Problem Reports.

Clean and order the HD perfectly using free state-of-the-art CCleaner ("Run Cleaner" and Registry tab) then Puran boot-time defrag with Intelligent Optimizer enabled on the Additional Operations tab.
CCleaner - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET Download.com
http://download.cnet.com/Puran-Defra...-75115626.html

Save a Windows 7 backup image externally of your optimized Windows 7 which may become preferable to the Recovery Disks and can reimage your HD or it's replacement in 20 minutes:
Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
System Image Recovery

If there are any lags or problems work through these additional troubleshooting steps, start a new thread for expert help.

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11 Sep 2010   #19

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Bare Foot Kid

Cheers. I'll read through those articles.
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11 Sep 2010   #20

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post

My point was slightly different. I wanted to get you off the 4 primaries so that you could create an extended partition. Whether you did that then with the 103MBs and then shrunk more space off the C partition or whether you started with space off the C partition right away would not have mattered. The problem at hand was that you were stuck with the 4 primaries.
Ah right. Sorry, I misunderstood.

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The problem with the Disk Management not being able to shrink beyond the MFT sitting in the middle of the partition can be overcome with Partition Wizard.
Thanks. I'm just about to study the articles on Partition Wizard.
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