| Windows 7: Windows recovery disk -- when no CD drive |
06 Oct 2010
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#1 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Windows recovery disk -- when no CD drive Hi all
This must have been dealt with before but I couldn't find any reference to it in the Search.
If you have a Netbook with no DVD drive it's easy enough to create a Windows USB installation stick.
However you can't create a Windows recovery disk.
My question is can the standard Install "USB" stick be used to repair for example an installation that fails to boot.
IMO it SHOULD be OK but I'd like confirmation before messing around and repartitiioning my Netbook.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs |
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06 Oct 2010
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#2 | | |
Hi Jimbo,
The recovery options under "Repair My Computer" on the install media are identical to the recovery options on the recovery disc. | My System Specs | | OS Vista x64 / 7 X64 CPU E8400 Motherboard ASRock 1333 GLAN R2.0 Memory 2x1 gb 800mhz Graphics Card 9500gt 1gb Case Coolermaster Cooling Winpower 500w Hard Drives Maxtor 160gb-2mb cache |
06 Oct 2010
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#3 | | Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz) SomeWhere in the HOT Arizona Desert ! |
Can you create a recovery Disc if you connect an Ext DVD R/W USB drive to a netbook ?
I don't have any netbooks. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built them myself, Science Experiments ! OS Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz) CPU AMD fx8350 4ghz, AMD-32 2400mhz, AMD-64 3200mhz, AMDx64 2.8G Motherboard SIS 755, ECS-K8M890M-M (Ult 7600), GigaByte & others Memory 2gb, 4gb on the Ult 7600, 4gb on Technet RTM, 32gb on FX8350 Graphics Card Draw my own Graphics, several nVidia cards Sound Card on motherboard Monitor(s) Displays 19" flat scr, 28" I-Inc widescr,22" Emprex Widescr, 23" Acer Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024, 1440 x 900, 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Compaq & Dell recycled from GoodWill Mouse Made in China Optical Wired Mouse PSU 430w, 550w, 600w, 700, 800, etc Case All Generic Full Towers Cooling Open Air & a few fans, some w/ colored LEDs Hard Drives 6 pata Ide HD's & 2 Sata HD's
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06 Oct 2010
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#4 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |
Is a recovery disc the same as a System Repair Disc?
If so, then once can create a System Repair Disc if one has an external DVD/CD optical unit that has a USB interface. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
06 Oct 2010
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#5 | | Win 7 Ultimate (64-bit), Win 7 Pro (32-bit) N. Calif |
While it may be true that an installation media contains the same Recovery Options as a System Repair disk, it takes a 4GB thumb drive to create a USB install drive. You can create a System Repair drive on a much smaller USB device, the smallest I have on-hand is a 1G thumb drive but it looks like a 256M thumb drive would be big enough as the System Repair thumb drive I created only has 174M of used space.
Unfortunately, I don't know how you can create the System Repair thumb drive without a CD drive but if you have access to one you can create the USB System Repair drive for future use.
Here's the steps I used to create one (slightly modified from instructions found here: Create Win 7 USB Thumb drive installer):
Requirements:
USB thumb drive at least 256M in size.
System Repair CD.
Win 7 install DVD.
Follow the first 7 steps of the USB thumb drive installer instructions but in step 8, remove your Win 7 install disk and put your System Repair CD in the drive and copy its contents to the thumb drive instead of the install files from the install DVD. Once the files have been copied you now have a USB thumb drive System Repair device.
I did this with a 32-bit System Repair disk but it should work fine with a 64-bit repair disk as well. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built, Dell Inspiron 1520 Laptop OS Win 7 Ultimate (64-bit), Win 7 Pro (32-bit) CPU 3.4Ghz 3770K i7, 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo Motherboard Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H, Dell Memory 8G, 3G Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5770, Mobile Intel 965 Sound Card High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo) Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2409W 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986 Mouse Microsoft PSU Antec Case Antec 100 Cooling CM 212+ Hard Drives 128G SSD OS; 1.5T & 2T Data on Desktop, 320G for laptop Internet Speed 1.5M down 1.2M up :-( Other Info Also have an Acer Aspire netbook, a home-built AMD Dual core (Minecraft server) and home-built Pent 4 all running Win 7. Also have various machines running XP, Win Server 2K, Win Server 2003, Linux and DOS. I think I have a problem... |
06 Oct 2010
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You could manually make a system repair usb drive.
Take a look at a sysem recovery disc and it's pretty obvious how to do it using winre.wim and the boot files from your HD.
Easier still to copy the contents of the install media to the HD - then just delete everything from the sources folder except boot.wim. | My System Specs | | OS Vista x64 / 7 X64 CPU E8400 Motherboard ASRock 1333 GLAN R2.0 Memory 2x1 gb 800mhz Graphics Card 9500gt 1gb Case Coolermaster Cooling Winpower 500w Hard Drives Maxtor 160gb-2mb cache |
06 Oct 2010
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#7 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |
Interesting. I've never tried that approach, but that would certainly work.
Here's my spiel on putting the system repair disk on to a usb: WIN 7 SYSTEM REPAIR DISC ON A BOOTABLE USB
Putting a Win 7 System Repair Disc on a bootable USB consists of three steps:
1. Create a System Repair Disc
2. Prepare a USB stick
3. Copy the System Repair Disc to the USB Step 1. Create a System Repair Disc START | type System Repair | Enter key | Create Disc button Step 2. Prepare a USB stick
The stick is prepared by running CMD.EXE as an administrator (also known as an elevated command prompt) and then using DiskPart to prepare the USB stick. Elevated command prompt = Run CMD.EXE as administrator · WIN key · Type CMD.EXE (do not hit Enter key) · In the Programs list, Right-Click on CMD.EXE · Click on Run as administrator · YES button Use DiskPart to prepare the USB Stick · type DiskPart, Enter key · type List disk, Enter key
note the numeral of the disk you want to clean
for example purposes, I’ll be using the numeral 2 · type Select disk 2, Enter key · type Detail disk, Enter key
this info will let you know if you selected correctly · type Clean ALL, Enter key
your entire disk is being overwritten with zeros.
This can take a considerable amount of time · type Create Partition Primary, Enter key
This will create a primary partition · type Format fs=ntfs, Enter key
This formats the partition using the ntfs format. · type Assign, Enter key
This assigns the next available volume letter to the volume. · type Active, Enter key
This marks the current partition as active. Verifies that partition is capable of being a bootable partition. · type EXIT, Enter key
This exits the DiskPart program. · type EXIT, Enter key
This exits the command shell. Step 3. Copy the System Repair Disc to the USB stick
Insert the System Repair Disc in the CD/DVD drive.
Using Windows Explorer, copy the entire contents to the USB stick.
You now have a bootable System Repair Disc on a USB stick.
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========================================= | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
07 Oct 2010
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#9 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |

Quote: Originally Posted by karlsnooks Interesting. I've never tried that approach, but that would certainly work.
Here's my spiel on putting the system repair disk on to a usb: WIN 7 SYSTEM REPAIR DISC ON A BOOTABLE USB
Putting a Win 7 System Repair Disc on a bootable USB consists of three steps:
1. Create a System Repair Disc
2. Prepare a USB stick
3. Copy the System Repair Disc to the USB Step 1. Create a System Repair Disc START | type System Repair | Enter key | Create Disc button Step 2. Prepare a USB stick
The stick is prepared by running CMD.EXE as an administrator (also known as an elevated command prompt) and then using DiskPart to prepare the USB stick. Elevated command prompt = Run CMD.EXE as administrator · WIN key · Type CMD.EXE (do not hit Enter key) · In the Programs list, Right-Click on CMD.EXE · Click on Run as administrator · YES button Use DiskPart to prepare the USB Stick · type DiskPart, Enter key · type List disk, Enter key
note the numeral of the disk you want to clean
for example purposes, I’ll be using the numeral 2 · type Select disk 2, Enter key · type Detail disk, Enter key
this info will let you know if you selected correctly · type Clean ALL, Enter key
your entire disk is being overwritten with zeros.
This can take a considerable amount of time · type Create Partition Primary, Enter key
This will create a primary partition · type Format fs=ntfs, Enter key
This formats the partition using the ntfs format. · type Assign, Enter key
This assigns the next available volume letter to the volume. · type Active, Enter key
This marks the current partition as active. Verifies that partition is capable of being a bootable partition. · type EXIT, Enter key
This exits the DiskPart program. · type EXIT, Enter key
This exits the command shell. Step 3. Copy the System Repair Disc to the USB stick
Insert the System Repair Disc in the CD/DVD drive.
Using Windows Explorer, copy the entire contents to the USB stick.
You now have a bootable System Repair Disc on a USB stick.
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========================================= Hi there
very commendable -- thanks but this will FAIL at step 1 since when you try and create a system repair disk on your Netbook you'll get a message "NO DVD writer detected."
The main point I was trying to get across here is what to do IF YOU DON'T have any DVD writing capability.
Now I DO have other computers with DVD / CD writers but NONE of them are running Windows 7 Pro 32 bit so I'm afraid creating a repair disc on another system and then building the USB drive won't work.
However being able to repair from the standard install disk is fine -- I've got enough USB sticks lying around anyway.
These days even a 16GB USB stick doesn't cost more than a few dollars -- I don't want to mess around with external USB DVD drives.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
07 Oct 2010
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#10 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |
Understandable. I also have a netbook. I also bought an external dvd/cd. They are really quite economical and affordable. There are too many instances where I found I needed to be able to read/write a cd/dvd even in the marvelous days of usb sticks. Sure makes ripping a cd easier with an optical drive. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
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