| Windows 7: Separate Partition for OS and Apps? |
06 Oct 2010
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#1 | | Win7 Pro 64-bit (retail) Wash Heights, NYC |
Separate Partition for OS and Apps? BarefootKid is going to reach through the cloud and kill me I know but...
I made 3 partitions on a 128G SSD. I installed Win7Pro64 on the first partition. Now I'm ready to install some programs and I just realized, I don't really want to change the default directories at all...I think that's just asking for confusion and trouble.
I was so convinced I needed a separate Programs partition. Well I got it, thanks to a lot of help from BFK and Dave and others. But honestly, now I don't know what to do with it!
Can anyone tell me if there's a good reason to have a separate partition for your programs?
Thankfully since it's empty it's easy to change - I'll just extend my OS partition.
I guess....
Thanks for any comments, suggestions, advise - or poisoned pen letters in the case of BFK - you want to send my way! Seriously, I'd really appreciate any thoughts you would care to share. | My System Specs |
| OS Win7 Pro 64-bit (retail) CPU core i7 980X Motherboard MSI Big-Bang XPower X58 Memory G.Skill 4Gx3 F3-10666CL9T-12GBRL (2x) Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-N470D5-131-B Monitor(s) Displays HP LP2475w (2x) Screen Resolution 1920x1200 PSU Corsair CMPSU-850HX Case HAF X Cooling Intel DBX-B (stock) Hard Drives Crucial RealSSD CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 (boot drive, on SATA6 Marvell port);
Samsung 1TB HD103SJ 32M 7200rpm;
Hitachi 160G HTS722016K9SA00 |
06 Oct 2010
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#2 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
It is never a good idea to put programs on another partition. They write keys to the registry which intergrate them into the OS and should be on the same partition backed up in the same image.
User files, yes. Put them on a separate partition (preferably separate HD) linked to the Windows 7 directories so that they become their own data vault protected in case OS becomes irreparable. Then you only need to reimage a compact OS/Programs partition and your files are still in place ready to go. User Folders - Change Default Location Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup | My System Specs | | |
06 Oct 2010
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#3 | | Win7 Pro 64-bit (retail) Wash Heights, NYC |
thanks G - I'll go through the links and see if I can learn what you mean by "linked to the Windows 7 directories." I've just started using Windows 7 and it's really quite a bit different than XP - the directory structure I mean.
I haven't looked into imaging a disk yet but I understand that's the best way to create backups. I have always kept my working files and assets on a separate HDD, but when the OS drive goes I've always just suffered through reinstalling Windows.
It sounds like creating an image is a simple solution - and much quicker to restore.
thanks again Greg. | My System Specs | | OS Win7 Pro 64-bit (retail) CPU core i7 980X Motherboard MSI Big-Bang XPower X58 Memory G.Skill 4Gx3 F3-10666CL9T-12GBRL (2x) Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-N470D5-131-B Monitor(s) Displays HP LP2475w (2x) Screen Resolution 1920x1200 PSU Corsair CMPSU-850HX Case HAF X Cooling Intel DBX-B (stock) Hard Drives Crucial RealSSD CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 (boot drive, on SATA6 Marvell port);
Samsung 1TB HD103SJ 32M 7200rpm;
Hitachi 160G HTS722016K9SA00 |
06 Oct 2010
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#4 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Glad to help.
Here's a video that shows another view of changing User files location: Data Partition | My System Specs | | |
07 Oct 2010
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#5 | | W 7 64-bit Ultimate The Lowcountry |
Hello again, now where did I put that cloud; fancy meeting you here.
There's no problems, do what you're comfortable with, your SSD is large enough to install all your programs/apps to without being concerned over available space.
I needed to work out those commands anyway, I've been meaning to take the time to do it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number * BFK Customs * OS W 7 64-bit Ultimate CPU Intel Q9550 Yorkfield Motherboard ASUS P5Q Pro Memory 8GB Dominator 8500C5D Graphics Card ATI : XFX 5870 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio 7-1 Monitor(s) Displays 1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI Screen Resolution 1920x1080P & 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft 500 Mouse Razer Diamondback 3G PSU Corsair 620HX Case Cooler Master RC-690 Cooling Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans Hard Drives 1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s) Internet Speed 14 Mb/s Other Info 1x Koutech 3Gb/s SATA HDD Hot Swap Rack |
07 Oct 2010
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#6 | | W7 Home Prem, Vista home Prem |
Hi there,
Gregs reply is of interest to me' too as I'm just about to consider the structure the op was querying.
When Greg says it's never a good idea to separate programmes from the os, I'm guessing that this not only applies to things like an os app but would it also mean a game for example? Like doom3?
I've tended to keep games on my d:/ but every now and then a game autoninstalls to c:/ and ends up in programme files (under vista) and sonny system is a mess of good intention and bad programmes that don't ask the user at install.
So don't separate os apps, games basically anything that you 'install' onto the os? That about right?
Data drives are for data only like word docs, spreadsheets, photos, movie etc?
Lastly - any suggestions for a free diskimager? I'll buy if I have to but if there is a respected and capable free one then I'll save a buck!
Cheers | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Manufacturer: Me OS W7 Home Prem, Vista home Prem CPU Intel E8600 3.3GHz dual core Motherboard Asus (need to find model) Memory 4 Gb Graphics Card Nvidia - GForce GTX 280 - 1Gb Sound Card Xonar Dx 5.1 Monitor(s) Displays Hazro flatscreen Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Logitech G11 Mouse Logitech G9 Laser PSU Later Case Infiniti Midi tower Cooling later Hard Drives 1 x Samsung Spinpoint F1 300 gb
1 x Samsung Spinpoint F1 1 Tb
1 x Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 Tb Internet Speed 3mb/s - awful Other Info I built this three years ago. It was very fast at the time. Now it's about average but still runs any game I throw at it at max detail.
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07 Oct 2010
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#7 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Hi IcarusII -
Yes, exactly, keep the programs with the OS and data on its own partition.
The built-in Windows 7 Backup Imaging program works fine for me: Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
Others prefer free Macrium Reflect which offers a little more flexibiity but isn't built-in. Try and compare if you want. | My System Specs | | |
07 Oct 2010
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#8 | | Win7 Pro 64-bit (retail) Wash Heights, NYC |
Hey BFK -
I wanted to get your opinion about backup images - system/program images - where is the best place to save it, and when is the best time to make it.
I always thought a "real" backup had to be saved to a disk. Nobody seems to think that way anymore though, like the tutorial you linked to. Backing up to disk is just another option but the author doesn't recommend it over other locations. Do you think it's safe to keep your backup on a HDD or an SSD?
Also I was hoping to get your advice on the best time to make an image of your OS - is right after you install Windows a good time to do it? Or after you've got your programs in there too (all on the same partition of course) :-)
Or does it even matter when?
As always, THANK YOU for your recommendations and for sharing your time helping us out. I know we all sincerely appreciate it! | My System Specs | | OS Win7 Pro 64-bit (retail) CPU core i7 980X Motherboard MSI Big-Bang XPower X58 Memory G.Skill 4Gx3 F3-10666CL9T-12GBRL (2x) Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-N470D5-131-B Monitor(s) Displays HP LP2475w (2x) Screen Resolution 1920x1200 PSU Corsair CMPSU-850HX Case HAF X Cooling Intel DBX-B (stock) Hard Drives Crucial RealSSD CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 (boot drive, on SATA6 Marvell port);
Samsung 1TB HD103SJ 32M 7200rpm;
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