| Windows 7: using a windows 7 OEM disc and a 64 bit question |
17 Nov 2010
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#1 | | 7 Home Premiun and XP Pro |
using a windows 7 OEM disc and a 64 bit question Hello all,
I've been looking to upgrade an older Thinkpad T61 with windows 7, now I've been looking on Amazon and have seen the OEM version. Now I have 7 pre installed on another machine, and will buying an OEM version still work fine. Also I have 64 bit on my main system and I was wondering about compatibility on this one, it has 2 gig's of ram and a core 2 duo T7300 so I think it is 64 bit compatible and just need some clarification. 64 bit would give me some head room if I ever want to give it 4 gigs. | My System Specs |
| OS 7 Home Premiun and XP Pro |
17 Nov 2010
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#2 | | W 7 64-bit Ultimate The Lowcountry |
Hello DLB1985, welcome to Seven Forums!
The one drawback with OEM is it lives and dies with the first motherboard that it is installed to, it can never be legally moved to another PC/mobo.
Have a look at this link below to make sure there will be no issues installing Windows 7 to that PC. Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number * BFK Customs * OS W 7 64-bit Ultimate CPU Intel Q9550 Yorkfield Motherboard ASUS P5Q Pro Memory 8GB Dominator 8500C5D Graphics Card ATI : XFX 5870 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio 7-1 Monitor(s) Displays 1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI Screen Resolution 1920x1080P & 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft 500 Mouse Razer Diamondback 3G PSU Corsair 620HX Case Cooler Master RC-690 Cooling Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans Hard Drives 1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s) Internet Speed 14 Mb/s Other Info 1x Koutech 3Gb/s SATA HDD Hot Swap Rack |
17 Nov 2010
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#3 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Unless you really want to move the OS from system to sytem all the time, OEM is tha way to go. You can buy at least two OEMs for the price of one retail version - and the retail version can also only run on 1 system at any given time. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
17 Nov 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86 |
AFAIK, T7300 is 64 bit capable. Also, I would suggest you purchase the home premium family pack- thats a retail upgrade license valid for 3 PCs, real value for money. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to describe... OS Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86 |
17 Nov 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, Mac OS X 10.6 |
Actually its the hard disk. If you upgrade only the hard disk the OEM version cant be used
Exempt is Hard disk failure.
OEM version checks for :
BIOS ID of manufacturer --- Motherboard ID --- HDD ID --- OPTICAL DRIVE ID---Unknown factors >> Activates it offline.
For Lenovo (now) only:
Probable explanation for the fact if Ted and I have the same Lenovo laptop model, Ted can not use my disk (If they gave me the disk and Ted has lost his somehow and now needs to use it):
Also include special chip set to store a key. It is impossible to get that key.
The freedom of Retail version can not be simulated by OEM version. I format and clean install the partition at regular interval to get rid off the invalid reg keys of trial version softwares. Yes, OEM is pocket friendly and enough for a general user.
This is probably 2nd or 3rd time I am saying here, OEM softwares can not be sold by other than system manufactures. It is totally illegal and I posted the warnings about this from Microsoft in other previous posts. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number COMPAQ Presario Laptop OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, Mac OS X 10.6 CPU Intel Pentium Dual Core @2.0GHz Motherboard Compaq Generic Memory 12GB Graphics Card NVIDIA Graphics For Mobile 512MB VRAM Sound Card IDT High definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Laptop LCD Display Screen Resolution 1280*800 Bright View Widescreen Keyboard Generic Laptop Keyboard Mouse Touch Pad Cooling Direct ; generic fan Hard Drives 500 GB Primary Master@7200rpm + 1 TB External HDD Internet Speed 3.1 Mbps wireless Broadband Other Info Generic Dock |
17 Nov 2010
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#6 | | Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit Grafton,IL |
A lot of us on the forum have swapped hard drives including me with an OEM version with no problem.
Home built PC.
It reauthenticates upon loading or after which took about 30 seconds.
Even swapped out bad mobos with a phone call by many others. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hopalong/ Godzilla OS Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit CPU Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Motherboard ASUS P7P55D-E PRO Memory 8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 Sound Card VIA Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Asus VS248H-P 24"; Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws Screen Resolution 1920x1080; 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech K-320 Mouse Kensington PSU COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular Case COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Cooling Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans) Hard Drives Samsung 830 120GB SSD
Intel 320 120GB SSD
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Antivirus Avast Inernet Suite Browser IE 9 ; Chrome |
17 Nov 2010
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#7 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
I would have the 4gb of RAM before upgrading your main system to 64 bit. It may struggle with 2gb. | My System Specs | | |
17 Nov 2010
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#8 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker I would have the 4gb of RAM before upgrading your main system to 64 bit. It may struggle with 2gb. Greg, you are absolutely right. With his current configuration, there is nothing to be gained with 64bit. I run both 32 and 64bit on similar systems and I cannot tell the difference. In fact there are some advantages to 32bit in terms of program compatibility. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
17 Nov 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1 Houston, Texas |

Quote: Originally Posted by DLB1985 Hello all,
I've been looking to upgrade an older Thinkpad T61 with windows 7, now I've been looking on Amazon and have seen the OEM version. Now I have 7 pre installed on another machine, and will buying an OEM version still work fine. Also I have 64 bit on my main system and I was wondering about compatibility on this one, it has 2 gig's of ram and a core 2 duo T7300 so I think it is 64 bit compatible and just need some clarification. 64 bit would give me some head room if I ever want to give it 4 gigs. There is not anything to be gained by using an OEM version. You can buy an Upgrade for about the same price. The Upgrade is $119 and the OEM is $99 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Operating System Software - UPGRADE Version - DVD at TigerDirect.com | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1 CPU Intel Core i3-2120 3.30Ghz Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 Socket H2 ATX Memory Kingston 4 GB DDR3 1333 mhz Graphics Card Zotac GeForce 9400 GT 512MB Sound Card Sound Blaster Audigy SE 24-Bit Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Sync Master 940 = 19 inch Screen Resolution 1440 X 900 Keyboard Microsoft Natural 4000 Mouse Microsoft Custom Optical 3000 PSU 500 watt Case NZXT Apollo - Silver with Clear Side Panel Cooling Three 120 mm Fans Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB Sata 3 SSD ==
Western Digital 160 GB Caviar Blue 7200 RPM ==
Western Digital 500 GB Caviar Green 7200 RPM == Internet Speed AT&T Fiber Optic Wireless Network Other Info 120 mm Blue LED Fan -- Three Blue LED Lazer Light Sticks |
18 Nov 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Abhishek Ghosh Actually its the hard disk. If you upgrade only the hard disk the OEM version cant be used
Exempt is Hard disk failure.
OEM version checks for :
BIOS ID of manufacturer --- Motherboard ID --- HDD ID --- OPTICAL DRIVE ID---Unknown factors >> Activates it offline.
For Lenovo (now) only:
Probable explanation for the fact if Ted and I have the same Lenovo laptop model, Ted can not use my disk (If they gave me the disk and Ted has lost his somehow and now needs to use it):
Also include special chip set to store a key. It is impossible to get that key.
The freedom of Retail version can not be simulated by OEM version. I format and clean install the partition at regular interval to get rid off the invalid reg keys of trial version softwares. Yes, OEM is pocket friendly and enough for a general user.
This is probably 2nd or 3rd time I am saying here, OEM softwares can not be sold by other than system manufactures. It is totally illegal and I posted the warnings about this from Microsoft in other previous posts. Problem is virtually all types of Windows 7 licenses have some amount of FUD associated with them. Let me give some examples.
1) This system builder OEM. Now, it was earlier legal to use this on a PC an end user built, but somewhere sometime, MS changed a couple of lines. Unfortunately they did not tell their own MVPs about it. 100s of stores sell copies of this edition, if MS has the muscle to stop counterfeiting in China why doesnt it stop Newegg/Amazon and company from selling these?
See these. Is it OK to use OEM Windows on your own PC? Don't ask Microsoft | ZDNet Is it legal to build a personal rig with Windows 7 OEM license? - general-discussion - windows-7
2) The Upgrade disks. When the upgrade version first came out (the student deal), there were endless debates on whether they would install on a blank disk. Eventually someone found a way, then MS declared its legal as long as one has an underlying OS but please note that there was confusion on this subject for a long, long time. Lots of folks put off buying this cheaper version because of that.
3) Anytime Upgrade- Do retail keys always work with WAU? nobody knows.
4) Are install dvds language specific? nobody knows for sure.
5) Technet and MSDN licenses. These are supposedly meant for IT evaluators and developers but anybody can buy a subscription without having to submit credentials they belong to either category.
Dont get me wrong, I dont condone piracy or any violation of EULA. But I think some things need to be set in order before we start telling people dont do this, dont do that. For MS also, tech support would get easier IMHO if they clear up such issues early in the product life cycle. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to describe... OS Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86 using a windows 7 OEM disc and a 64 bit question problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:25 AM. | |