| Windows 7: 200 Meg hidden System partition |
02 Jan 2009
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#1 | | ESXi 3, VistaSP1, VistaSP2 Beta, XPSP3, Win7 build 7000, SBS2003, SBS2008 |
200 Meg hidden System partition Hello all - new to 7 forums. I might have this post in the wrong place
With a default install of Windows 7, it creates a non-lettered 200Meg "system" partition with about 30 Meg of data.
I have been digging around for an explanation as to its purpose but found no clear explanation. Some say it's for bit locker, but then say that it would need to be at least 1 GIg. Some suggest that it's a way to guarantee an amount of free space for updates and backups (VSS needs a place to place snapshots). Some say it's the actual boot partition. Windows 7 starts the bootstrap here then moves the C: drive to load the rest of the OS.
If anybody has a clear explanation as to what it's for, I'd like to know.
Thanks
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Bloody Big Grin |
02 Jan 2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
Hi Nick, and welcome to the Seven forums
As smarty said it's the Boot partition but it's only created if you install to a completely fresh HDD if existing partitions are present then the install follows the form of earlier OS versions, and creates the boot file on an existing partition | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
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02 Jan 2009
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Sorry, my post seemed kind of abrupt. It first appeared in build 6801. Odd that it wasn't assigned a drive letter, as 6801 automatically assigned it as D:\
It looks like later builds might be hiding it | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Computers by SmartEyeball OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
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Bloody Big Grin |
02 Jan 2009
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#5 | | |
Yes, it is normally hidden with no drive letter now. It was that way starting with 6936 I do believe. | My System Specs | | |
02 Jan 2009
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#6 | | |
If you look in Windows Disk Management you should see it listed as the System partition - this is MS speak for what everyone else calls the boot partition.
I believe it's a safety feature to keep it separate from the partitions your operating systems are on - what MS calls boot partitions.
Think the idea is if you hose any of your o/s partitions, you should still be able to boot up any other Windows o/s as the System partition is undamaged. You should also be able to make an image of it to restore in case of disaster.
Don't recommend trying a registry defrag if you have a separate System partition - you may get BCD issues.
Hope it helps
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03 Jan 2009
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#7 | | W 7 64-bit Ultimate The Lowcountry |

Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 If you look in Windows Disk Management you should see it listed as the System partition - this is MS speak for what everyone else calls the boot partition.
I believe it's a safety feature to keep it separate from the partitions your operating systems are on - what MS calls boot partitions.
Think the idea is if you hose any of your o/s partitions, you should still be able to boot up any other Windows o/s as the System partition is undamaged. You should also be able to make an image of it to restore in case of disaster. Don't recommend trying a registry defrag if you have a separate System partition - you may get BCD issues.
Hope it helps
SIW2 Hello SIW2.
I'll bet this will throw a lot of people for a loop.
Thanks!
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03 Jan 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
Thanks for the heads up SIW2,
As a side note it's good to see M$ thinking of the many users that, for whatever reason, decide to multi-boot operating systems,
A separate "boot" or "system" partition makes so much sense to cover the "OH dear!" situations that all Multi-boot scenarios sometimes cause.
I know it's been an option in Grub for a while now
Hopefully this system will be included in the RTM and later builds of Windows 7 and that they document it properly and perhaps even allow you to set-up this way when an existing partition structure already exists.
I do have a suspicion that this may well stop after the beta builds as M$ will assume that Multi-Boot is not a requirement with anything other than a Beta OS.
As for the use of registry defraggers or cleaners I personally would not advise they are ever used on a Beta operating system. This type of program, tend to be a bit too enthusiastic with what they consider dead links - often deciding that if it is not "normal" then it's not required. with a Beta OS containing many entries that were not "normal" when the Registry program was written it is , in my opinion, asking for trouble | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
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03 Jan 2009
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#9 | | Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 Maine, USA |
There will surely be folks who want to know if they can delete that partition to recover the space. Probably some that will just delete the space and then....
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03 Jan 2009
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#10 | | W 7 64-bit Ultimate The Lowcountry |
Yeah Gary, I can hear them now; but it's taking up a whole 200MB of space ...
Later  Ted
Last edited by Bare Foot Kid; 03 Jan 2009 at 09:30 AM..
Reason: Had partition size wrong!
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