Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: considering whether a repair install will be good

10 Dec 2010   #1
Auburn Boy

Windows 7 32 bit Professional
 
 
considering whether a repair install will be good

Hello,

Consider this my virgin newbie post! Greetings to you all.

I am considering whether a repair install will be good for what ails my PC.

I am sure I've broken a few things, and now my hardware may have caused a few other things to break.

Being from Windows XP Professional and a constant tinkerer (i.e., I know "everything" ) I managed to upgrade my XP machine to Win7 and as a consequence, ended up with a DUAL boot computer. I didn't intend it that way, but I had installed BCD prior to my upgrade, and when I found out that Win7 would not recognize INTEL Raid on my mobo, I disabled the RAID and removed the drive from the boot preferences in BIOS after mirroring the running WinXp system on a brand new 500 GB PATA drive.

After the Win7 "Clean Install" (What's clean about installing over 5 year old hardware and drivers?) I re-enabled the RAID and my Win XP installation was available to the new boot menu. I don't think I could have planned it that way.

The DUAL boot thing has actualy saved me a few times, and lets me compare apples to oranges (XP to Win7 setups, drivers, and software.)

Second, I had to find compatible drivers and hardware to finish the upgrade. Some drivers are free, when you can find them, and drivers for other things don't exist. So, I had to resort to some hardare upgrades as well. A new ULTRA SCSI 160 I/O card form my external devices ( Iomega Jazz 1 GB, and HP 6100C flatbed scanner.)

Third, another pitfall of being a do-it-yourselfer, I managed to dislike the new File Architecture Windows 7 installed. Specifically the hidden, super-hidden, and protected directories that I used to feel I owned. SO I took posession of them all.., Mwu-ha-ha-ha-ha.., After all, I have the power. It turns out that those so-called user directories are not directorie but are something I've never dealt with before. Junction points! You learn something new everyday. A lesson I learned a couple of mouse clicks too late.

I think I also learned how to "fix" them manually, once I've screwed them up. Maybe..,

Last but not least, my aged (some might say ancient) machine is giving me some real hardware problems. Thermal shutdowns! Or so the BIOS reports. Upon reading, this could be anything from bad power supply contacts, to failing voltage regulator caps on the mobo.., The latest "event" caused the bios to reset while Win 7 was up. Blew away my shadow copys for my restore points, set me back to some unknowable boot point, reset my desktop themes (I previously hadn't even known what Aero looked like,) and threw a slew of system, application, security, errors, critical events..,

But I recovered. Sort of.

I'd like to:

a.) Get all the system folders that are symbolic links/junctions correctly re-established.

b.) fix any services that were screwed up by my latest hardware "glitch."

c.) Restore the ability to do System Restore points and keep them from going "poof."

d.) Get this all working before I have to replace my mobo or power supply. I'd like to have a safe system backup to recover from if needed before going the out with the old inwith the new hardware.

First, can a repair install fix the file system for me, get my system restore working, and clean up anything in the operating system that "broke" due to the hard, hard, hardware crash?

Second, is there a utility that I can use to print out to a file, a list of all the current installed system files for the drivers (since I had to really beat up the driver set to get everything running?) It would be nice to have a list of what's really installed so that I can easily hunt it down to re-do it if needed after a repair install.

Last, I built a "Windows 7 32 Bit Repair Disc" at the completion of my "clean install." My original CD to install from was an online downloaded purchase build from a .ISO file, which worked fine. Which disc would I use to do the repair install?

I hope I'm asking the right questions, and providing the right information.

"We who are about to die, salute you."


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

10 Dec 2010   #2
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

Have you considered virtualizing XP in Win7 using Virtual Box, Virtual Player, or XP Mode which comes in Ultimate? XP is nearly XPired and the RAID is not favored by Win7, so a clean Win7 install to wiped HD might be your best bet for starting over with less drag.

However, a Repair Install can indeed fix many problems, although your settings will largely carry over. I consider it a practical last resort before clean reinstall.

Repair Install is done from the Installation DVD. Here's how: Repair Install

Some tips on getting a perfect reinstall when the time comes, based on hundreds done here: re-install windows 7
My System SpecsSystem Spec
13 Dec 2010   #3
Auburn Boy

Windows 7 32 bit Professional
 
 

The latest failure actually seems to have run a "Recovery Install." It seems that's where the configuration for Aero themes got set up.

I'm wondering if that was actually a full "Repair Install?"

Does anyone have more information on this "last ditch" effort by Windows 7 to clean up boot up failure? I can't seem to find a description of it.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.


13 Dec 2010   #4
Auburn Boy

Windows 7 32 bit Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Have you considered virtualizing XP in Win7 using Virtual Box, Virtual Player, or XP Mode which comes in Ultimate? XP is nearly XPired and the RAID is not favored by Win7, so a clean Win7 install to wiped HD might be your best bet for starting over with less drag.

However, a Repair Install can indeed fix many problems, although your settings will largely carry over. I consider it a practical last resort before clean reinstall.

Repair Install is done from the Installation DVD. Here's how: Repair Install

Some tips on getting a perfect reinstall when the time comes, based on hundreds done here: re-install windows 7
When I first set about upgrading to Win7, I ran the "Upgrade Analyzer." My processor and motherboard don't support virtualization.

I understand how to "slipstream" the RAID drivers in to the INSTALL by selecting the F6 option. I have the VISTA F6 Intel RAID Driver set for my motherboard.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 Dec 2010   #5
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

Here are the steps to slipstreaming SATA drivers into XP installer: SATA Drivers - Slipstream into Windows XP CD

I don't know about RAID but observe that it is a lot more trouble than it's worth with Win7.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 considering whether a repair install will be good




Thread Tools





Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
Windows 7 crashes on startup. Can't restore, repair or repair install
All of a sudden, my computer crashes every time when starting up the computer. When it gets to the "Windows" screen with the small moving dots that form the windows logo, it crashes just as they start their animation. I've tried using Startup Repair, as well as command line repair (possibly the...
General Discussion
Windows 7 Repair Install screen black before install finished
Hi all Half way through the Windows 7 Repair install the monitor drivers seem to have corrupted. The screen works fine up to the Windows logo on a black background, then the screen goes dead. Everything is still working underneath, key presses seem to affect the hard disk, caps lock works,...
Installation & Setup
What software is good for repair?
If anyone could make me a list of usefull things I will need for overclocking, repair, general testing ect I already have CPU-Z Prime95 Walwarebytes freeIso2Usb DIskCheckup
Software
Startup Repair loop, how to do a repair install
My wife's PC crashed today and got into a startup repair loop. I'm hoping that I can do a repair install, but I can't figure out how to do so. Here's the details: Her system is just a few months old. Here are the specs: ASUS P8Z77-Mpro motherboard Intel i5-3570K (not overclocked) - intel...
Installation & Setup
how to do repair install with start up repair infinite loop?
hey guys i kinda screwed up my gfs toshiba laptop anyways it's in the start up repair infinite loop but i think i found the perfect fix i need where i can keep her files on the computer too i'm trying to do this http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html i tried doing this...
General Discussion
Anyone have any really good results with the repair install??l
Hi everyone, my Windows 7 pro x64 is playing up abit, random resets, no blue screen, just straight up reset, and also wont play Bluray discs with any program except WinDVD 11, which will only play them in 2D. Power DVD 11, 12, and Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre 5 all cause a reset, sometimes...
Installation & Setup

Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:13.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App