| Windows 7: Moving "System Reserved" partition |
30 Dec 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Moving "System Reserved" partition Hi all
I've two Windows 7 installations as a multi boot on two physical drives:
Disk 1 - 100 MB System reserved partition and a windows partition with my first (not genuine I later found) installation
Disk 2 - Second "genuine" installation
I'll eventually delete the first installation and would like also to shift the System reserved partition to the second disk so that it "stands alone" as a boot drive. I'm comfortable enough with creating/copying/moving partitions but guess that it won't be as simple as "inserting" a copy of the system reserved partition at the start of the second disk and switching the boot order of the drives.
I can't find any tutorials/posts on the topic, nearest hint suggested I might be looking at a repair install, but before I go down the trial and error route I thought I'd check to see if anyone knew.
Thanks
Andrew | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
30 Dec 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Osceola, WI |
Welcome to SF!
I did all this using Partition Wizard and changing the Boot Sequence in BIOS.
I didn't have any problems- just make some backups first. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number OEM - Me OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1600T Motherboard GigaByte GZ-990FXA-UD3 Memory 16GB PC3-10700 (1342MHz) Graphics Card ATI Radeon 5770 HD (x2) CrossFire Sound Card On-board RealTek chipset Monitor(s) Displays 3x Hanns-G 1920x1080 Monitors Screen Resolution 3x Hanns-G 1920x1080 Monitors Keyboard HP USB Mouse LogiTech USB PSU OCZ Stealth X Stream 750W Case Cheap (unknown) Cooling Stock Hard Drives Intel 25-V SSD 40GB: 218 MB/s AT: 0.1ms
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30 Dec 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Does the legal second installation boot and operate fine when the other drive is totally disconnected???
If it does, you could just do that--ignore the first drive and reformat it or throw it in the closet. As I understand it, the 100 MB "reserved partition" is there to assist recovery, but it offers you nothing for recovery that you can't find on a legit Windows 7 install disc anyway.
I don't have the 100 MB system reserved partition on my PC and I deliberately chose not to install it.
I'm assuming you have a legit install disc. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
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30 Dec 2010
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#4 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 Windows XP SP3 |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic As I understand it, the 100 MB "reserved partition" is there to assist recovery, but it offers you nothing for recovery that you can't find on a legit Windows 7 install disc anyway. It serves recovery, boot and bitlocker purposes as far as I know.
If you decide not to create it during install, however, I guess/assume that all those features are installed in the "default" C:\ drive (I don't have that 100MB partition at the beginning of the disk but I'm able to launch the startup recovery without the DVD anyway so I assume the necessary files for it have just been stored in C:\). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number I've made it myself :) OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 Windows XP SP3 CPU intel Core i7 920 Motherboard ASUS P6T Memory 6GB DDR3 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card Sapphire ATi HD5770 Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays LG M2380DF Screen Resolution 1080p... Eventually :D Keyboard You know, that cheap USB one... Mouse See "keyboard" PSU LC Power GP3 650W Case CoolerMaster Centurion Cooling Still lots of fans :( Hard Drives If they're that hard, why do they break so often? Internet Speed Acceptable in the 80s |
30 Dec 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
Your way should work but make sure your "new" drive is the only one connected and you may need to run system/startup repair up to 3 times to rebuild the MBR, Boot sector and BCD.
Have a look at these tutorials first System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times
The system reserved partition can be useful for multiboot situations. If the system reserved is not present one of the multi OSs needs to take on a multibooting role. I think it's best to keep the OSs as independent as possible. To dispense with it make your new drive active, make old system reserved inactive. With the new drive alone connected run the system repair up to 3 times to incorporate the boot functions into the one OS (Windows 7) partition.
If you decide to keep the system reserved partition now would be an ideal time to make it 200MB (which is what MS originally planned it to be). The system reserved requires 50MB free for shadow copy purposes when using Windows imaging. Unfortunately this partition can occasionally and temporarily fill to over 50 MB prevent imaging. Therefore, make it 200MB. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
30 Dec 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Thanks for all your quick replies. 
Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic Does the legal second installation boot and operate fine when the other drive is totally disconnected??? Unfortunately not. I'll give the repair install a try with just the new drive attached and with a 200MB partition.
I don't want to lose the original installation just yet as I had over 6 months invested in it before Microsoft decided it wasn't a genuine copy. Is it easy to add the original installation as an afterthought?
Thanks
Andrew | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
30 Dec 2010
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#7 | | W 7 64-bit Ultimate The Lowcountry |
Hello andrewbt, welcome to Seven Forums!
It can be a very useful little partition/tool and if you wanted to place the System Reserved partition in the first position on the Hard Disk Drive (HDD) to keep it out of the way, have a look at this one also and be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed. System Reserved : Create for Dual Boot | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number * BFK Customs * OS W 7 64-bit Ultimate CPU Intel Q9550 Yorkfield Motherboard ASUS P5Q Pro Memory 8GB Dominator 8500C5D Graphics Card ATI : XFX 5870 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio 7-1 Monitor(s) Displays 1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI Screen Resolution 1920x1080P & 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft 500 Mouse Razer Diamondback 3G PSU Corsair 620HX Case Cooler Master RC-690 Cooling Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans Hard Drives 1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s) Internet Speed 14 Mb/s Other Info 1x Koutech 3Gb/s SATA HDD Hot Swap Rack |
30 Dec 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Nearly there now.
After disconnecting drive 1 I tried setting up the reserved partition and repairing the installation on drive 2 along the lines that were suggested in the linked articles. After a few reboots it reported it was repaired, but it didn't work. Not sure what the problem was exactly... some problem reported with the boot/bcd file and retrying the repair install didn't pick this up.
I also tried copying the original system reserved partition across as rap3302 suggested but that didn't solve it.
In the end I did a custom/clean install using the home premium family upgrade pack with just disk 2 connected. Luckily it recognised the existing install on disk 2 as qualifying me for the upgrade and archived it as it overwrote it. I'd struggled with this yesterday as the upgrade wouldn't accept the product key without an earlier windows version installed. Curiously installing from the non genuine Windows 7 seemed to qualify me for the upgrade but left me split over 2 disks.
Incidentally, I must have had one of the first copies of XP which wouldn't go near reinstalling on my latest PC otherwise I'd have saved a lot of time yesterday.
Anyway, thanks for the various tips and I've learned a bit along the way. I would still like to add a pointer to the non genuine windows on disk 1 for my boot (from disk 2 now). I can get there by juggling disk boot order in the BIOS but it's cumbersome. I've seen some posts suggesting Vista software for this... not sure if it also works for Windows 7 but I'll hunt a little more.
Cheers
Andrew | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
30 Dec 2010
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#9 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
The installer will allow Upgrade version key during install if it sees any OS on the system.
However I would be concerned about not wiping the HD of all code before installing Windows 7 over a bootleg Windows 7 installation. SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
The registry edit workaround to get it to accept Upgrade key after install to a clean HD is quite easy and fully legit: Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version
It seems you went to a lot of trouble to try to construct the 100mb SysReserved partition for your reinstall. Did you mark it Active before running Startup Repair from the booted DVD Repair console/Repair CD 3 full times with reboots, with all other HD's unplugged? This will normally construct it.
If you installed over the bootleg without using Custom>Drive Options to delete, repartition and format before install it might not have replaced or even used the old 100mb SysReserved partition. Is it currently marked System Active in Disk mgmt? Do you have the Repair console on Advanced Boot Tools accessed by tapping F8 at bootup?
You can post back a screenshot of full Disk Mgmt drive map and listings if you want us to look it over. | My System Specs | | |
30 Dec 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
For future reference if the automatic startup repair function doesn't seem to do everything right then under the repair disk command prompt use the "bootrec" command.
History probably now but
bootrec /RebuildBcd
may have helped your BCD repair problem. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 Moving "System Reserved" partition problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:13 AM. | |