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Windows 7: Testing OS on another internal drive?


01 Jun 2011   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Testing OS on another internal drive?

After weeks of frustration I am now suspecting that my Kingston 60gb SSD may be somehow going bad. After following this forum's instructs I diskparted the SSD and tried reinstalling Windows 7 on it. After numerous attempts, Windows install keeps stalling at the "expanding Window's files" screen, then cancels the install. (Bios checks ok, disk has no scratches, and both DVD writers return the same results.)

To help prove the integrity of the SSD (still under warranty) I would like to now try doing a temp OS install on another internal HDD. There are 2 of those, each with data on them. Each HDD has only one large partition, as in drive D & drive R.

What is the detailed procedure in preparing one of those HDDs in order to accept a temporary OS install, while still preserving the existing data on that physical disk?

I must also be able to identify which disk is which (new partition?) when it comes to finding the "new" disk when loading the Windows 7 install software


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01 Jun 2011   #2
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Hello mate.


You would have to boot to diskpart and use Method Two of this tutorial at the link below to shrink the Hard Disk Drive of your choosing, 40GB should be more than plenty.

Partition or Volume - Shrink


Then use Step Two #1 of this tutorial to create a Primary partition in the newly created unallocated space and be sure to mark it Active and to give it a nane "Label" all using diskpart.

SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation


Then do the clean install to the partition you create and name.

How to Do a Clean Installation with Windows 7
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01 Jun 2011   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Thanks.

There is no OS on the comp anymore. It was on the SSD ..which then failed to reinstall Windows ..so it's now formatted.

What's left are 2 large 1T Seagate HDDs. Of which I wanna then partition one to take the OS. However, the HDDs are indistinguishable from one another in Diskpart. Gee, which one do I click on ..Disk 1 or Disk 2 (0 is the SSD)? -- I do not wanna lose my data

FYI, SSD (was OS and progs) on Disk C, Backups and some data on Disk D, large data pool on Disk R.
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01 Jun 2011   #4
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

You could do either one, the shrink will not bother any of the data that's there, that's the reason I suggest to use Windows diskpart, Windows will not allow a 'wrong' command.
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01 Jun 2011   #5

W7x64 Ult.
 
 

Probably a useless thought but I remember my original 7 install had a similar problem. I could not get it to install until I reset the BIOS from ACHI to IDE. Have no idea what that was about but it worked for me.
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01 Jun 2011   #6
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Here are the commangs after you boot to diskpart follow each by <enter>
diskpart

select disk 1

shrink desired=40960

create partition primary

format fs=ntfs label=”Test”

active

exit

exit
It would be best to disconnect the data cable from the SSD after you create the partition and then do the clean install to the created Test partition.
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02 Jun 2011   #7
Microsoft MVP

 

I remember your earlier thread concerning the reinstall to SSD, where I advised you not to use Diskpart Clean All because it is hard on an SSD.

Since you have a Kingston SSD I suggest you call Kingston Tech Support which is some of the best in the business. Kingston backs all of their products and will RMA if necessary after helping you test the drive to determine with certainty it's status.

As to your test install on one of the HD's, easiest would be to shrink whichever partition has the most free space to do a test install. Once you do the shrink, when you Create the Partition, label it during the create process so you know for sure it is the partition you want to choose during install.
Partition or Volume - Shrink
Partition or Volume - Create New

Unplug all other drives during install: Clean Install Windows 7
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02 Jun 2011   #8

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Outlander View Post
Probably a useless thought but I remember my original 7 install had a similar problem. I could not get it to install until I reset the BIOS from ACHI to IDE. Have no idea what that was about but it worked for me.
Are you sure you went from ACHI to IDE & not IDE to ACHI.
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02 Jun 2011   #9

W7x64 Ult.
 
 

Are you sure you went from ACHI to IDE & not IDE to ACHI.[/QUOTE]


I tried ACHI first and no go. Switched to IDE and all was well. Then had to do the registry trick to get Windows to see AHCI, then rebooted and changed to AHCI in the BIOS. I just Googled the problem and there were a lot of others with the same issue using the same work around. I never learned the why of this problem?
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02 Jun 2011   #10
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by daler View Post
Thanks.

There is no OS on the comp anymore. It was on the SSD ..which then failed to reinstall Windows ..so it's now formatted.


There seems to be no functioning OS on the machine, that is why I posted the method I did.


One wipe (or several for that matter) would/should not hurt a good SSD.
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