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Windows 7: New PC Build Troubles

03 Jun 2011   #11

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit

I have another suggestion. Your memory, you ran Memtest and found errors on one of the sticks, did you test the same stick in a different slot. That may be worth doing as it might be picking up on a motherboard fault in the related circuitry. As the other stick passed Memtest you could also try running a test of at least 8 passes with the good stick in the other slot.

Memtest is not 100% and can miss minor faults. Running the PC on some new or borrowed memory may also be worth a try.

You could also try running Prime95 and Furmark.

Prime95 (32bit) - 25.11 Download - EXTREME Overclocking
Prime95 Setup:
- extract the contents of the zip file to a location of your choice
- double click on the executable file
- select "Just stress testing"
- select the "Blend" test. If you've already run MemTest overnight please run the "Small FFTs" test instead. (run all 3 if you find a problem and note how long it takes to error out with each)
- "Number of torture test threads to run" should equal the number of CPU's times 2 (if you're using hyperthreading).
The easiest way to figure this out is to go to Task Manager...Performance tab - and see the number of boxes under CPU Usage History
Then run the test for 6 to 24 hours - or until you get errors (whichever comes first).
This won't necessarily crash the system - but check the output in the test window for errors.
The Test selection box and the stress.txt file describes what components that the program stresses.

FurMark: VGA Stress Test, Graphics Card and GPU Stability Test, Burn-in Test, OpenGL Benchmark and GPU Temperature | oZone3D.Net

FurMark Setup:
- If you have more than one GPU, select Multi-GPU during setup
- In the Run mode box, select "Stability Test" and "Log GPU Temperature"
Click "Go" to start the test
- Run the test until the GPU temperature maxes out - or until you start having problems (whichever comes first).
NOTE: Set the alarm to go off at 90șC. Then watch the system from that point on. If the system doesn't display a temperature, watch it constantly and turn it off at the first sign of video problems. DO NOT leave it it unmonitored, it can DAMAGE your video card!!!
- Click "Quit" to exit

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03 Jun 2011   #12

Windows 7 Ult. x64 + 3 desktops & 5 laptops

I have already tested the memory in each of the slots on the motherboard. The results were still clean for the one stick of memory, and 7 errors for the other one.

I just obtained a newer motherboard from a friend and I'm currently installing the hardware on it. I'll post back after everything is set up and working.

I really appreciate your help on this, guys.
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03 Jun 2011   #13

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)

I suspect the ReFurb HD, also
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03 Jun 2011   #14

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit

It will be interesting to see if the hard drive is the problem after it passed the manufacturer's diagnostics.
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03 Jun 2011   #15

Windows 7 Ult. x64 + 3 desktops & 5 laptops

Yeah, it could very well be the hard drive. I just want to test it on another motherboard to see if the MSI mobo is malfunctioning at all. If I get the same issues, then it must be a hard drive problem.

I've got all the parts together and I'm installing windows 7 64bit on it now. Let's see if anything is different.

EDIT: Okay. Windows blue screened when the setup was completing (when it boots from the hard disk to finish installation). Unfortunately, the screen went too fast to catch the stop code. I'm going to put this HDD in another PC that I know is working and try again. If problems still persist, then I'm just going to have to get a new hard drive.
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03 Jun 2011   #16


If install is failing at final stages try accessing Device Manager during install to uninstall any devices in error to let installation complete, then install/update the device driver from the desktop: Device Manager - Access During Windows 7 Installation

Where did you get the Win7 installer? Did you burn it yourself? If so, confirm the ISO HASH and burn another at 4x speed with Verify using ImgBurn. Or write the ISO to flash stick using this tool with Win7 in the dropdown menu: Universal USB Installer – Easy as 1 2 3 | USB Pen Drive Linux to eliminate the installer.

This is not XP. I would not change out drivers which are already in the installer or quickly updated via optional Windows Updates after enabling hardware auto-updating, unless performance issues are traced to a specific driver: Automatically get recommended drivers and updates for your hardware.
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04 Jun 2011   #17

Windows 7 Ult. x64 + 3 desktops & 5 laptops

I don't believe drivers are the issue in this case. I've connected the hard disk to another computer and installed XP home edition and things seem to be working alright. Installation was successful, and nothing has crashed/blue screened. The setup for the motherboard drivers went smoothly.

When I tried the Windows 7 64/32bit at first, it gave me an error saying Windows cannot read the "Program Files" folder on the hard disk. The Windows 7 disc appears to be in working order though. After that error came up, I put the disc in my brother's PC and installed 7 on a partition and it worked just fine. I also used it multiple times on my virtual machines and none had errors reading and installing from the disc.

Can it possibly be bad ram in my new PC then? I would test with another stick, but all my other PC's are DDR2 or laptops.

Side note, the PC the HD is currently connected to does not support booting from a USB in the BIOS.

EDIT: I just bought a brand new HDD and a new 4gb ram stick. I'm going to try the windows 7 x64 install on the new PC again. Here's hoping...
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04 Jun 2011   #18

Windows 7 Ult. x64 + 3 desktops & 5 laptops

Bingo! The problem was the hard drive. Windows 7 x64 installed without errors on the new HDD. The motherboard drivers also installed smoothly. My web browsers are not crashing as well. I switched out the new RAM I got with the previous ram and things are still working fine, so the RAM doesn't seem to be a factor in this predicament.

This brings another question though. Should I use the RAM that contained errors? If the hard drive was really the only problem, would those errors in the one stick of RAM prove to be a major issue?
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04 Jun 2011   #19
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate

Test each stick individually for at least 7 or 8 complete passes.

RAM - Test with Memtest86+
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04 Jun 2011   #20

Debian Squeeze Stable 64-bit

If you bought new RAM, use that. What brands of RAM were they?
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