| Windows 7: Unable to Boot without a Bootable Disc in the Drive |
18 Jul 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 x64 Home Premium |
Unable to Boot without a Bootable Disc in the Drive I have two HD drives, one SATA and one IDE, plus one SATA CD/DVD drive. Firstly I used to have XP on the SATA and Windows 7 on the IDE, but the IDE drive is smaller and slower and I wanted to essentially swap them over. The boot devices are set in the bios as CD/DVD first, SATA second, IDE third.
So I have installed XP first on the IDE and now Windows 7 on the SATA, but after I removed the Windows 7 DVD and restarted it is refusing to boot saying NO BOOT DEVICE DETECTED, INSERT SYSTEM DISK. Now if I place the Windows 7 dvd in the drive and ignore the PRESS ANY KEY TO BOOT FROM CD/DVD...., it will book fine.
This will surely fustrate non-technical users no end and some may not even think to try and replace the OS disk and try again.
I think I know what has happened, but more importantly how do I go and fix it to just boot without needing a damn boot disk everytime!?
Any sugguestions would be greatly appreciated. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 x64 Home Premium CPU Intel Q6600 @ stock Motherboard ASUS P5N-E SLI (Bios 1301) Memory 6GB DDR2 6400 Crucial Ballistix (4-4-4-12-2T) Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce 560 OC 1GB @ stock Sound Card Asus Xonar DG (headphones via FP and speakers via rear jack) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2032BW Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Dell SK 8125 Enhanced Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Sharkoon Fireglider PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Case Enermax Cooling 1x120mm, 3x80mm Fans Hard Drives WDC 250gb SATA, Maxtor 120gb IDE Internet Speed 8 mbps (supposedly) Other Info Microsoft GameVoice, Microsoft Sidewinder Joypad |
18 Jul 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 North Carolina, United States of America |

Quote: Originally Posted by Okran I have two HD drives, one SATA and one IDE, plus one SATA CD/DVD drive. Firstly I used to have XP on the SATA and Windows 7 on the IDE, but the IDE drive is smaller and slower and I wanted to essentially swap them over. The boot devices are set in the bios as CD/DVD first, SATA second, IDE third.
So I have installed XP first on the IDE and now Windows 7 on the SATA, but after I removed the Windows 7 DVD and restarted it is refusing to boot saying NO BOOT DEVICE DETECTED, INSERT SYSTEM DISK. Now if I place the Windows 7 dvd in the drive and ignore the PRESS ANY KEY TO BOOT FROM CD/DVD...., it will book fine.
This will surely fustrate non-technical users no end and some may not even think to try and replace the OS disk and try again.
I think I know what has happened, but more importantly how do I go and fix it to just boot without needing a damn boot disk everytime!?
Any sugguestions would be greatly appreciated. Check you BIOS and make sure that it is set to boot from the Windows 7 Drive first | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz Motherboard JFT02 Memory 4GB Kingston DDR2-800 Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays WUXGA Standard Laptop Display Screen Resolution 1680*1050 Keyboard Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard Mouse Synaptics Touchpad PSU Standard Laptop Power Supply Case Standard Laptop Case Cooling Standard Laptop Cooling Hard Drives Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD Internet Speed Verizion Online DSL 3360/864 kbs (dl/up) |
18 Jul 2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 x64 Home Premium |
Hi, thanks for the sugguestion. I just tried that and it said BOOTMGR IS MISSING and stops there. So I reset then hit F8, select DVD drive, then ignore the PRESS A KEY TO BOOT FROM DVD.... prompt to boot into Windows 7.
I just tried to Repair via the system repair option and viewed the details of the system startup recovery and it says my Windows 7 is set to D:\. This is incorrect, but it didn't find any problems so it didn't fix it. Will changing this to C:\ fix it and if so how do I change it please?
Last edited by Okran; 18 Jul 2009 at 07:53 PM..
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| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 x64 Home Premium CPU Intel Q6600 @ stock Motherboard ASUS P5N-E SLI (Bios 1301) Memory 6GB DDR2 6400 Crucial Ballistix (4-4-4-12-2T) Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce 560 OC 1GB @ stock Sound Card Asus Xonar DG (headphones via FP and speakers via rear jack) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2032BW Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Dell SK 8125 Enhanced Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Sharkoon Fireglider PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Case Enermax Cooling 1x120mm, 3x80mm Fans Hard Drives WDC 250gb SATA, Maxtor 120gb IDE Internet Speed 8 mbps (supposedly) Other Info Microsoft GameVoice, Microsoft Sidewinder Joypad |
18 Jul 2009
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#4 | | Win7 Build 7600 x86 Netherlands |

Quote: Originally Posted by Okran Hi, thanks for the sugguestion. I just tried that and it said BOOTMGR IS MISSING and stops there. So I reset then hit F8, select DVD drive, then ignore the PRESS A KEY TO BOOT FROM DVD.... prompt to boot into Windows 7.
I just tried to Repair via the system repair option and viewed the details of the system startup recovery and it says my Windows 7 is set to D:\. This is incorrect, but it didn't find any problems so it didn't fix it. Will changing this to C:\ fix it and if so how do I change it please? Well, since you changed the bootdrive in BIOS, the right drive is selected because now at least you get bootmgr missing instead of bootdisk missing.
Now just do another clean install of Windows 7 and you should be fine. | My System Specs | | OS Win7 Build 7600 x86 CPU Pentium II 300MHz Motherboard Asus Memory 32mb EDO RAM Graphics Card Diamond Viper Sound Card Soundblaster 16 Monitor(s) Displays 14" AOC CRT 16K color Screen Resolution 800x600 Keyboard Trust Ergonomic Mouse Generic PSU 110 Watts Cooling Passive Hard Drives 300mb Quantum fireball Internet Speed 256K u 128K d |
18 Jul 2009
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#5 | | |
I had the "Insert system disk" error reinstalling Server2k3. It will only boot when the DVD in the drive. I had to reinstall it several times before i got it working right. I had burned my w2k3 at high speeds and when installing it said some files are missing so i inserted another copy of win2k3 (from another source) and the installation continued. When the install finished I removed the dvd then thats when the "insert system disk" problem started.
Try reburning your Windows 7 at the lowest possible speeds and reinstall
I also have 1 SATA and 1 IDE drive. My Server2k3 is on the SATA
win 7 is on the IDE. If the system startup recovery tells you that Windows 7 is set to D:\ it will automatically change into C:\ when you boot into Windows 7 | My System Specs | | |
19 Jul 2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 North Carolina, United States of America |
The only thing he needs to do is reboot the computer...put the installation disc back in and boot that...choose repair computer and let it detect startup problems...after that he should be able to boot without the disk...np | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz Motherboard JFT02 Memory 4GB Kingston DDR2-800 Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays WUXGA Standard Laptop Display Screen Resolution 1680*1050 Keyboard Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard Mouse Synaptics Touchpad PSU Standard Laptop Power Supply Case Standard Laptop Case Cooling Standard Laptop Cooling Hard Drives Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD Internet Speed Verizion Online DSL 3360/864 kbs (dl/up) |
19 Jul 2009
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#7 | | |
Another experts trick on boot problems:
install EasyBCD on the WinXP drive and run from there. Now you can reinstall the Vista/Windows 7 bootloader and fix any boot troubles without reinstallation or repair from Windows 7. Only recommended for experts though !
Goodluck ! | My System Specs | | |
19 Jul 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 x64 Home Premium |
Cheers for all the advice.
I lost patience last night and tried easybcd and changed the xp drive to d: and the Windows 7 to c:, then both systems failed to boot.
So I first re-formated the IDE (xp) drive and re-installed xp, then I did the same with windows 7. Windows 7 had a problem after the first re-boot during the installation, said BOOTMGR IS MISSING again on a fresh install too...
I'll try the Windows 7 system startup repair first and post back what I find. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 x64 Home Premium CPU Intel Q6600 @ stock Motherboard ASUS P5N-E SLI (Bios 1301) Memory 6GB DDR2 6400 Crucial Ballistix (4-4-4-12-2T) Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce 560 OC 1GB @ stock Sound Card Asus Xonar DG (headphones via FP and speakers via rear jack) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2032BW Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Dell SK 8125 Enhanced Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Sharkoon Fireglider PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Case Enermax Cooling 1x120mm, 3x80mm Fans Hard Drives WDC 250gb SATA, Maxtor 120gb IDE Internet Speed 8 mbps (supposedly) Other Info Microsoft GameVoice, Microsoft Sidewinder Joypad |
19 Jul 2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 x64 Home Premium |

Quote: Originally Posted by squonksc Now just do another clean install of Windows 7 and you should be fine. Just tried that, it's still doing the same 
Quote: Originally Posted by bahn Try reburning your Windows 7 at the lowest possible speeds and reinstall I burned mine a 2x speed so it's working fine, plus when I had XP on my SATA and Windows 7 on my IDE I didn't get any problems. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Zidane2424 The only thing he needs to do is reboot the computer...put the installation disc back in and boot that...choose repair computer and let it detect startup problems...after that he should be able to boot without the disk...np Tried that just before, but it didn't detect any problems so it didn't fix anything. 
Quote: Originally Posted by intrax Another experts trick on boot problems:
install EasyBCD on the WinXP drive and run from there. Now you can reinstall the Vista/Windows 7 bootloader and fix any boot troubles without reinstallation or repair from Windows 7. Only recommended for experts though !
Goodluck ! I'll get easyBCD back onto XP and try it out, looks like it's going to be the only way to fix it.
How crap is that though! I have to resort to using another parties software just to get Windows 7 to boot as the primary device on my PC. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 x64 Home Premium CPU Intel Q6600 @ stock Motherboard ASUS P5N-E SLI (Bios 1301) Memory 6GB DDR2 6400 Crucial Ballistix (4-4-4-12-2T) Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce 560 OC 1GB @ stock Sound Card Asus Xonar DG (headphones via FP and speakers via rear jack) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2032BW Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Dell SK 8125 Enhanced Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Sharkoon Fireglider PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Case Enermax Cooling 1x120mm, 3x80mm Fans Hard Drives WDC 250gb SATA, Maxtor 120gb IDE Internet Speed 8 mbps (supposedly) Other Info Microsoft GameVoice, Microsoft Sidewinder Joypad |
19 Jul 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 x64 Home Premium |
Well after some thought I decided not to try easyBCD first. Instead I tried a few things and eventually I got it to work.
As I installed XP first it was drive C:\, then when I installed Windows 7 it installed as D:\, however the boot loader was on C:. So this is why it wasn't working and I fixed it by swapping the boot priority in the bios to loading the XP drive first and viola.
Strange that I had to do that and that the boot loader wasn't loaded to the same drive where it was installed instead. It's a backwards setup but it works.
Thanks again for all your help and sugguestions. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 x64 Home Premium CPU Intel Q6600 @ stock Motherboard ASUS P5N-E SLI (Bios 1301) Memory 6GB DDR2 6400 Crucial Ballistix (4-4-4-12-2T) Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce 560 OC 1GB @ stock Sound Card Asus Xonar DG (headphones via FP and speakers via rear jack) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2032BW Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Dell SK 8125 Enhanced Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Sharkoon Fireglider PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Case Enermax Cooling 1x120mm, 3x80mm Fans Hard Drives WDC 250gb SATA, Maxtor 120gb IDE Internet Speed 8 mbps (supposedly) Other Info Microsoft GameVoice, Microsoft Sidewinder Joypad Unable to Boot without a Bootable Disc in the Drive problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:03 PM. | |