| Windows 7: HP Recovery still runs from F11 after clean reinstalling to C |
14 Aug 2011
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#1 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
HP Recovery still runs from F11 after clean reinstalling to C There seems to be a change in HP's over the past few years so that if you clean reinstall from boot to C and leave the 199mb System Reserved Partition, Recovery and HP TOols partitions intact, you can later run Full Factory Recovery or Minimized OS Image Recovery by booting F11.
Previously if you deleted, formatted, wiped or just clean reinstalled to C it was iffy whether F11 Factory Recovery would later boot to run.
It's still a good idea to make your Factory Recovery disk set, but if you have room to let those three partitions remain you have a more stable Factory Recovery method if you might ever need it via F11 at boot. HP Backup and Recovery Manager HP Recov DIsks - make another set Reinstalling Windows 7
Edit: The Minimized OS Image Recovery option also is about as close to clean reinstall as you can get using Factory Recovery, with only the HP Support Assistant, Recovery Manager and Wireless Assistant reimaging with Windows 7.
Last edited by gregrocker; 14 Aug 2011 at 08:23 PM..
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Good to know will probably save me some headache in the near future. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Insane hobo technologies. ;-) OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard Asrock z68 extreme 4 gen 3 Memory G.skill Ripjaw 16gigs @ 1866 Graphics Card Nvidia gtx580 (evga) Sound Card Integrated HD audio + hdmi Monitor(s) Displays 24" ASUS widescreen + 42" insignia Screen Resolution 1080p (1920x1080) Keyboard Microsoft wireless 3000 (v2) Mouse MS - wireless 5000 (bluetrack) PSU 1 kilowatt SLI/Crossfire rated Silverstone modular Case NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan Cooling Zalmann Hard Drives 128 Samsung 830
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14 Aug 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
Greg,
prior to the availability of the System Reserved partition OEM bootstrap additions for recovery options were by default placed on the primary boot partition (C: ). When this was replaced by a re-install the additions were lost.
Now that the boot files are placed on the System Reserved partition this is a lot more robust against a format of C:,
As the bootstrap was merely a pointer to the recovery partition boot files you can often force a restore on a system that has had the bootstrap files removed from the C: partition, by setting the active drive to the recovery partition itself. This has saved me on more than one occasion | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
14 Aug 2011
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#4 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Thanks Nigel, informative.
I wonder why more OEM's don't organize this like HP has with a hotkey other than F8, since Factory Recovery when it is listed on F8> Advanced Boot Options>Repair My Computer seems to disappear during a clean reinstall to C.
Also I wonder if F8>Repair My Computer>Factory Recovery would remain intact if Sys Reserved is similarly preserved for reinstall to C, kept Active so that it refreshes and remains System partition.
Will have to test it. | My System Specs | | |
14 Aug 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
Greg,
The system Reserved partition has only been available to the OEM suppliers since the arrival of Windows 7 so it is still very new in the minds of these large multinationals  It may well be that now that the more adventurous companies such as HP have started using it correctly it will become the norm. I hope so as this does make things a lot easier Additional
I have noticed that Acronis now automatically backs up any system reserved partition it finds as part of the One Click backup strategy, so things are progressing | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
14 Aug 2011
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#6 | | Windows Home Premium 64 Bit California |
Thanks. I've made a mental note of this for future reference. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP-G72 OS Windows Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel i3 Memory 4GB Monitor(s) Displays LGE2750 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard MS Comfort Curve 2000 Mouse MS 3500 |
15 Aug 2011
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#7 | | W 7 64-bit Ultimate The Lowcountry |
Perhaps now Method Two of this will get serious attention / consideration now. Partition / Extended : Logical Drives | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number * BFK Customs * OS W 7 64-bit Ultimate CPU Intel Q9550 Yorkfield Motherboard ASUS P5Q Pro Memory 8GB Dominator 8500C5D Graphics Card ATI : XFX 5870 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio 7-1 Monitor(s) Displays 1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI Screen Resolution 1920x1080P & 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft 500 Mouse Razer Diamondback 3G PSU Corsair 620HX Case Cooler Master RC-690 Cooling Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans Hard Drives 1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s) Internet Speed 14 Mb/s Other Info 1x Koutech 3Gb/s SATA HDD Hot Swap Rack |
15 Aug 2011
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#8 | | ME/XP/Vista/Win7 uk Hampshire |
Cleaning up a HP PC. Bill2's post 
Quote: Originally Posted by Bill2 Newer HP machines have a recovery option called Minimised Image Recovery. Running this from the HP recovery solution leaves behind only the OS, drivers, and some minimal HP software but gets rid of most bloat. Depends on whether your machines came preloaded with this option. Clean up your HP | My System Specs | | |
15 Aug 2011
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#9 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Yes, Ray, I included HP Minimized Image Recovery which Bill referred to an hour ago in my OP 15 hours ago. | My System Specs | | |
20 Aug 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
After reading this informative thread, I determined that not all HP models contain the Recovery Manager allowing creation of the Factory Recovery disk set. My ProBook doesn't & I called HP who confirmed this fact. Since the computer is still under factory warranty, I was able to order a disk set for free. Be sure the CS rep orders the right set, they ordered 32-bit instead of 64-bit, had to call back & start over. The HP disk sets have different part numbers, unlike a full install from Microsoft where both 32 & 64 bit versions are included in one package.
BTW, the BIOS access has changed somewhat, you can go directly to F11 for Recovery or ESC takes you to a menu of options, F11 being one of the options. ESC shows on the opening screen lower left corner, after power-on. The DVD/CD-ROM drive is now referred to the "Notebook Upgrade Bay". I figured this out when attempting to determine why a CD would not boot. You can add a timed delay for the boot order. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ProBook 4530s XU015UT#ABA OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i3-2310M Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 167C Memory 8GB DDR3 SDRAM Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics 3000 (Sandy Bridge GT2) Sound Card Intel Cougar Point PCH High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" LED LG Philips LP156WH4-TLD1 Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Mouse Logitech M315 Case Notebook Hard Drives WDC WD3200BEKT-60PVMT0 Internet Speed 12Mbps/2Mbps HP Recovery still runs from F11 after clean reinstalling to C problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:28 PM. | |