| Windows 7: New HP laptop loaded with bloatware - keep/discard what? |
09 Nov 2011
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#11 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
I agree that the first step is to get a clean boot, then as suggested in Clean up factory bloatware
over time decide what programs you don't want and uninstall them.
To get a clean boot, uncheck everything in msconfig>Startup except AV, then in msconfig>Services "Hide all MS Services" and do the same. After several restarts make sure nothing turns itself back on or turn it off in its Program Preferences or Uninstall it. YOu now have a clean boot.
With HP's the Wireless Manager bloatware must have it's Preferences set to allow Independent Managers before you can turn it off or it will block Windows 7's superior network connection. Then I'd uninstall it and bury it in the backyard. | My System Specs |
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09 Nov 2011
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#12 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Well the problem that I was having and still have to some degree is that with a 64gb ssd you don't have unlimited space and with my Office, Nero, Adobe, Act, Database, AV and Malware, MediaMonkey, Quicken, MapPoint and other needed software space becomes a premium. Also at the rate MS is sending out large important updates having any un-needed bloatware just wasn't an option. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
09 Nov 2011
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#13 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
You need a clean reinstall more than most. Even if you remove all the HP bloatware -worst in the industry - your Registry is clogged with abandoned keys that not even CCleaner can root all of them out. Performance is always affected to some degree.
A clean install of only the Windows 7 OS is always a superior install.
With HP you don't even need to lose any favorite apps included, since with the tutorial I posted early on you can extract any apps from the Recovery Disks.
Do you have access to a Windows 7 DVD or ISO for your version?
The steps are all here to get it perfect: Reinstalling Windows 7 | My System Specs | | |
09 Nov 2011
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#14 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Greg this is what I was referring to in link #7. So like you said with these vital and not supplied without a special call and wait OS disks, always best to clean install and that's just what I wanted to do. But then with the drivers and software disk I could pick and choose things to install back in programs like the face and finger print recognition program and such. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
09 Nov 2011
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#15 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Yes I thought you had an OS DVD and not the REcovery disks with bloatware that it sounds like now.
Do you have access to a Windows 7 installation DVD for your version to clean reinstall with Product Key on COA sticker?
I'd use the drivers given by the installer and then quickly updated via optional Windows Updates. Any missing in Device Manager can be found on HP Support DOwnloads webpage for your model where some software should also be posted. | My System Specs | | |
10 Nov 2011
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#16 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Greg I only have my copy of my Windows 7 Ultimate which is on my desktop. Are you saying I could have used that and then put in the Product Key from the OEM Windows 7 Home Premium? I just used the OS disk HP sent and it clean installed very well. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
10 Nov 2011
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#17 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Yes, as stated in my first post above: 
Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Best however to Clean Reinstall following these tips: Reinstalling Windows 7
With HP's you can leave the Recovery Partition and it will still run from boot even if you reinstall to C. There is a minimal Recover option on new HP's which is very close to a Clean Reinstall - you'll just need to discard the useless Wireless Manager which adds 30 seconds to boot time in favor of Windows 7's superior one.
You can also extract favorite apps from the Recovery Disks so you don't have to have them all: Extract HP 3rd Party Software from RecovCD The disks HP sent are hardly a clean reinstall but the factory image loaded with the worst load of bloatware in the industry. Always best to go clean, especially trying to preserve space on that new SSD.
What I would do is extract the Ultimate ISO using ImgBurn, then run the eicfg removal tool
on the ISO to unlock all versions, burn another DVD using ImgBurn at 4x speed, boot to install your licensed version with Product Key on COA sticker. The steps to get a perfect install are here: Reinstalling Windows 7 | My System Specs | | |
10 Nov 2011
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#18 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Excellent as always Greg, I will look into this. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
11 Nov 2011
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#19 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |
If you don't mind me adding to Greg's excellent support you can also copy the swsetup folder, which houses HP's drivers, third-party applications such as Cyberlink software and the Vision Diagnostics ISO.
Obviously, you would need to copy the folder before you wipe the hard drive when you clean install Windows. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
11 Nov 2011
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#20 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Great idea, Seavixen!
Your drivers are also all backed up in Windows/System32/Drivers which you can back up and browse to from Device Manager for any missing after install and optional Updates. | My System Specs | | New HP laptop loaded with bloatware - keep/discard what? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:13 AM. | |