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Windows 7: Moving Paging File to another Partition

07 Nov 2011   #21
rubyrubyroo

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just look at your advanced system properties screen again and tell me how many page files it displays as anthing other than "none" it'll be 1 or 2 either "C:" or "C: and D:" will have active page files I'm gessing the former is true.


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07 Nov 2011   #22
gregrocker

 

Unfortunately if you move the Paging or Hibernation files or User folders to another HD, Win7 Backup Imaging will want to include that partition in the image since it contains System Files.

You might want to check out other imaging apps like Acronis True Image which comes free with any WD or Seagate HD in the mix, as some don't include the paging or hibernation files.

Meanwhile you can disable and delete the paging and hibernation file when you make the image, then turn it back on afterwards.
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07 Nov 2011   #23
MilesAhead

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Unfortunately if you move the Paging or Hibernation files or User folders to another HD, Win7 Backup Imaging will want to include that partition in the image since it contains System Files.

You might want to check out other imaging apps like Acronis True Image which comes free with any WD or Seagate HD in the mix, as some don't include the paging or hibernation files.

Meanwhile you can disable and delete the paging and hibernation file when you make the image, then turn it back on afterwards.
+1 I know Macrium Reflect and Easus ToDo also do not save the page file in backup images. The free versions of both now have USB 3.0 support in their Linux Boot CDs.
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10 Nov 2011   #24
rubyrubyroo

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thenoo,

hey man - did you go ahead and try to fix it? and just not reply (to everyne who tried to help you) or did you "cut the red wire" when you should have cut the "blue one"?!?!?!!! (me hopes not! )

just havn't heard a peep

Mike
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10 Nov 2011   #25
DerekGCWhite

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Thenoo,

I used the following method:
1) Create a partition a bit beggier that file file you require, in my case 8GB memory MS suggested around 16GB of pagefile so I created a partition of 35GB to allow for 16GB of memory an a bit more - I do this as it removes any fragmentation from the Pagefile and the only IO to that partition is PageFile IO
2) Use the Advance Setting to create a Pagefile the max=min=recommended, but on the new Partition, say drive P:
3) Specify No Page file on drive C:
4) Apply changes
5) Reboot the system

Word of caution - the only place Windows can put memory dumps is into a PageFile on the System drive thus if you move the pagefile to a different partition you will never get any system dump if you have a BSOD

If you are looking to speed up IO access to various areas of the system information have you considered using RAID0? I have just put all my data on a 3 disc RAID5 array and the system (and all system files) on a 2 disc RAID0 array. I now have a system that if you blink you miss the opening up MS Word/Excel/etc. I have not done any scientific analysis on the speed difference but the system is VERY much faster

I have 60GB of SSD as cache to go in in front of the RAID0 to make it even faster when I can get the System drive over to RAID0
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10 Nov 2011   #26
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DerekGCWhite View Post
Thenoo,

I used the following method:
1) Create a partition a bit beggier that file file you require, in my case 8GB memory MS suggested around 16GB of pagefile so I created a partition of 35GB to allow for 16GB of memory an a bit more - I do this as it removes any fragmentation from the Pagefile and the only IO to that partition is PageFile IO
2) Use the Advance Setting to create a Pagefile the max=min=recommended, but on the new Partition, say drive P:
3) Specify No Page file on drive C:
4) Apply changes
5) Reboot the system

Word of caution - the only place Windows can put memory dumps is into a PageFile on the System drive thus if you move the pagefile to a different partition you will never get any system dump if you have a BSOD

If you are looking to speed up IO access to various areas of the system information have you considered using RAID0? I have just put all my data on a 3 disc RAID5 array and the system (and all system files) on a 2 disc RAID0 array. I now have a system that if you blink you miss the opening up MS Word/Excel/etc. I have not done any scientific analysis on the speed difference but the system is VERY much faster

I have 60GB of SSD as cache to go in in front of the RAID0 to make it even faster when I can get the System drive over to RAID0
Sounds like you have it perfected. It's too bad there aren't more options when setting these things up. On Linux you have much more flexibility. You can have swap partitions, swap files(created dynamically if needed) and also schemes such as using secondary swap only if primary swap is exhausted, round robin etc..

Esp. where the dump file is hard wired there should be an option to dynamically create the page file when needed. I mean, this is primitive stuff. I was doing round robins swaps across 2 physical drives in Linux over 10 years ago.
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10 Nov 2011   #27
DerekGCWhite

Windows Home Premium x64
 
 

I cut my teeth in the world of mainframes when 128MB was a massive system that got man to the moon and back and discs had to be turned on one at a time because the Battersea Power Station could not cope if we started them all together

Squeezing every drop of IO out of the system was the order of the day

I have found that using RAID0 has extended the life of my smaller discs and I now get stunning speeds from simple 7200 rpm 32mb cache because there are multiple channels to each bit of data

I trust not to far off thread, please remove if it is
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10 Nov 2011   #28
rubyrubyroo

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Derek,
Greetings! Your stepwise method is basically the general consensus I think that has been arrived at (short the size of the partition/pagefile, which I am not interesting in opposing n or agreeing in this thread)

but as to the RAID and use of solid-state technologies and whatnot, as alternative methods of speed increasing a system, I think that is outside of the scope of the users PARTICULAR reason for the post (making a smaller drive size image for a backup) and the users problems seemed to pose problems that your steps did not address in the form of an additional copy of the same page file and if it should/could be deleted along with how.

Your information does seem to be correct to me though in the general sense. Although I never knew that about the dumb files, re:BSOD messages. Are you sure? Not dumped elsewhere maybe? or need to be set to be dumped elsewhere?... if it is true, than that is interesting info, I'll definitely check it out later, and I'll rep ya if your right (also do you know what systems this may or may not apply to?)

Thanks!
Mike
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10 Nov 2011   #29
rubyrubyroo

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no not to far! ! (off topic) esp. considering thread starter is "at large"!

also wasn't that 3 c64's on apollo-13?

Mike
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10 Nov 2011   #30
rubyrubyroo

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And stop cutting your teeth, it's a bad habit!! also it's kinda like schrtching on chalkboards with reallly big nails for me in my mind's ear to hear about someone doing such things (real or expressions!)


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