| Windows 7: Preserving Dual Boot (Win7 and XP) with new motherboard? |
21 Nov 2011
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#1 | | Win7 Ulitmate x64, XP x86 (Dual Boot) |
Preserving Dual Boot (Win7 and XP) with new motherboard? First I'd like to say thanks to the folks who have helped me so far with this process. The machine is running 64-bit Windows 7 and 32-bit XP. Finally about a week ago I bought a new mobo, processor and Ram.
When I booted the computer for the first time, I let the machine boot to Windows 7, and I was fully expecting the OS to crash or error out in some serious fashion. But it didn't. It didn't even prompt me for the Windows 7 installation disk. It spent about 10 or 15 minutes installing new drivers, though. After the OS finished, I installed the drivers for the motherboard. And everything is behaving swimingly. The system is noticeably faster than the one it replaced, which is always fun.
Once I was satisfied the system was running Windows 7 normally, I tried booting to XP. Problems. As soon as its splash screen came up, I realized the mouse wasn't being recognized, then I saw that neither was the keyboard. At this point, I should mention that with the old system I had a wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse combo. I ended up retiring this set for another Logitech wireless set because the new motherboard doesn't support PS-2 connectors for the mouse and kb, the way the original mb did. So I went with USB, in this case, a set in which both the kb and mouse share the same USB connector. Seems to me there shouldn't be a problem, but for whatever reason there was. Tomorrow, I'm thinking about dragging out an old PS-2 mouse and KB, attach them to the system using PS-2 to USB adapters and see if I can get it to respond when booting to XP. But I'm not holding out much hope.
If I have to reinstall XP, this is gonna kill the boot manager that Windows 7 set up, isn't it? To bring the Windows 7 boot manager back, does this mean I'll have to reinstall Windows 7 too?
*sigh* Why can't things just be simple for a change.
In case you're wondering, I've gone with an AMD Phenom X4 840 CPU and an ASRock 890GX motherboard. It's running 8 gigs of DDR3 PC1600 RAM. It has an onboard Radion 4200-series graphics processor, but the resolutions available with the processor are lame so I'm not able to run at my flat screen's preferred resolution. I mean, in this day and age of the ubiquitous 1920x1080 flat screen, who in their right mind would ignore this resolution? AMD/ATi apparently. I have a nice graphics card in another machine that does support this rez, and I guess it's gonna get pressed into service in the new machine. Or maybe I'll buy a new one; haven't made up my mind yet.
The old mb is still under warranty and still has a lot of life left to it -- an ASUS M4A78 Pro. It has AM2/AM3 socket capability and is running an AMD Athlon X2 7850 CPU, but it has problems. I'm sending it into ASUS for warranty repair/replacement, and then it will be put back into service in another machine that's currently running an eight yo mb/processor, due for retirement. I plan to run multi OSes on it too. Most likely XP and Ubuntu Linux (currently only Ubuntu is installed). I also want a small DOS partition -- less than a gig will be plenty -- so I can run some cool old DOS programs I still have. I have a legit copy of Quarterdeck's DeskView X -- like about a dozen 3.5" floppies, some of which I think have probably gone bad by now -- but I'd really like to get DVX up and running, just to play around with it some.
Okay, well, that's about it. If you have any comments or suggestions, I'd be happy getting your feedback. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Win7 Ulitmate x64, XP x86 (Dual Boot) CPU AMD Athlon 7850 Dual Core Motherboard POS ASUS Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card on the MoBo Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Audigy, M-Audio Delta 66 Monitor(s) Displays AOC 22" flat screen Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU 500w Case no-name Cooling ps fan, case fan, cpu fan Hard Drives 750 gig, 500 gig Internet Speed 4Mbps |
22 Nov 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 United Kingdom |
sounds to me like your 7 version is a full license and xp is an oem one use version.
What happens if you boot to XP with the CD in?
To my knowledge it shouldnt effect the boot order with 7.
If your that worried you could always install XP to a virtual machine, and just run it from window 7 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by badgers!!! OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 CPU Intel Core i5 2500k Motherboard Asus P8z68 Memory Corsair Vengence 8gb 1866mhz Graphics Card XFX Ati HD6950 2Gb Sound Card Mobo Optical to Yamaha Rx-V667 7.2 home cinema system Monitor(s) Displays Samsung LED 32" TV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg V7 Mouse Saitek R.A.T 9 PSU Corsair HX650w Modular Case NZXT Phantom White Cooling Corsair H60 Push/Pull Hard Drives 120gb Corsair Force 3 SSD Internet Speed Too slow! Other Info AMD fusion E350N Home server-Windows Home Server 2011 (also made by badgers!)
2011 Macbook 2.4ghz Core2Duo, 4gb ddr3, 120gb Ocz Vertex SSD |
22 Nov 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit Fantasyland |
Booting an already-installed Windows 7 system on a new platform is always a gamble - you were fortunate in that it worked in your case.
Thing is, with XP it's practically a given that it won't accept such a drastic hardware change. It's 10 years old and not nearly as flexible or resistant as the Vista/7 family. (Besides, XP doesn't have an entire winsxs folder or driver database from which to grab new drivers to auto-install.)
However, you could back up the MBR, then reinstall XP fresh (into the existing XP partition, not altering it or creating a new one), then restore the MBR from the backup. This would leave the dualboot exactly as it is now, except that XP will start up now because it's a new install.
If you want to go this route it's very important to first mark the XP partition as active and the 7 partition as inactive. Then boot from the XP setup disc and perform the install, taking care to overwrite the correct partition.
After that, you would then set the 7 partition active and the XP partition inactive again - it doesn't matter if you do this before or after reverting the MBR.
To back up the MBR itself, there are various freeware tools. One I'm personally very fond of is made by Microsoft itself and is called Sector Inspector (which actually can back up and restore any sector or range of sectors on a disk, not just sector 0).
Download it here: Download: Sector Inspector (SecInspect.exe) - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details
If you feel up to trying this route and/or have any questions before you proceed, I'll help you every step of the way. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 4GB DDR2-667 (4x1GB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays Acer Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache Internet Speed DSL; ~330KB/sec down, ~110KB/sec up Other Info Have a laptop too :) (Compaq CQ60 also with Win7 Pro SP1 32-bit)
Drives in both systems:
C: - Windows 7 + apps. Pagefile is fixed size and located at the very end of the partition.
D: - various temp files/cache for Firefox and apps/games.
E: - videos, music, misc. storage, torrent downloads, etc. |
22 Nov 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |
Speaking of making things simple, had you done that from the beginning, you may not be having any issues now. While it's always preferable to do a clean install on new hardware, Windows 7 is more flexible for changing hardware, and at most, should only need a repair to be booting again. As for XP, if you had it virtualized, it would work just fine after the swap, as VMs are designed to be portable. Dual-booting is a dead tech, and adds more variables to a system in situations like this. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
22 Nov 2011
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#6 | | Win7 Ulitmate x64, XP x86 (Dual Boot) |

Quote: Originally Posted by badger906 sounds to me like your 7 version is a full license and xp is an oem one use version. Nope, I bought XP at Costco. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Win7 Ulitmate x64, XP x86 (Dual Boot) CPU AMD Athlon 7850 Dual Core Motherboard POS ASUS Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card on the MoBo Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Audigy, M-Audio Delta 66 Monitor(s) Displays AOC 22" flat screen Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU 500w Case no-name Cooling ps fan, case fan, cpu fan Hard Drives 750 gig, 500 gig Internet Speed 4Mbps |
22 Nov 2011
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#7 | | Win7 Ulitmate x64, XP x86 (Dual Boot) |
Thanks for all the responses, guys. Geez just a few messages, and I'll likely have to spend a few days studying up on all the info they contain. I dunno about this whole VM business though. Sounds to me as if it might be fine for a fresh install. But in my case I wanted to keep all my old XP settings. I installed Windows 7 on a new hard drive into an older system. And I want to keep the old XP not only for all the software I've installed over the years, but also because Windows 7 no longer supports a few devices that I own and use. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Win7 Ulitmate x64, XP x86 (Dual Boot) CPU AMD Athlon 7850 Dual Core Motherboard POS ASUS Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card on the MoBo Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Audigy, M-Audio Delta 66 Monitor(s) Displays AOC 22" flat screen Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU 500w Case no-name Cooling ps fan, case fan, cpu fan Hard Drives 750 gig, 500 gig Internet Speed 4Mbps |
22 Nov 2011
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#8 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Feel free to ask back any questions to decide how you want to proceed.
I'd probably try booting XP CD to do the Repair Install first, then start Windows 7 back up to add XP from 7 which is easier.
Keep in mind that easiest of all is to use separate HD's booted via the BIOS, so that you don't have to add one or the other using EasyBCD - just set preferred HD to boot first, or boot the other one using one-time BIOS Boot menu key. | My System Specs | | |
30 Dec 2011
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#9 | | Win7 Ulitmate x64, XP x86 (Dual Boot) |
Well here I go again, resurrecting a stale thread. But I thought it was worth a final comment for clarity's sake. Reading back through my posts, I realized I may not have been as clear as I should have. What I did in this machine was, I bought a separate hard drive for Windows 7. So when I installed Windows 7, it went onto an empty drive and didn't have to do any funny tweaks to XP's "C" drive. And because I installed Windows 7 into an existing XP system, the boot manager that Windows 7 installed has worked fine for both OSes. No worries, really. And, as I mentioned in another thread, Windows 7 handled the mobo switch with ease, and much to my surprise, even XP survived the switch with a minimum of hiccups. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Win7 Ulitmate x64, XP x86 (Dual Boot) CPU AMD Athlon 7850 Dual Core Motherboard POS ASUS Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card on the MoBo Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Audigy, M-Audio Delta 66 Monitor(s) Displays AOC 22" flat screen Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU 500w Case no-name Cooling ps fan, case fan, cpu fan Hard Drives 750 gig, 500 gig Internet Speed 4Mbps Preserving Dual Boot (Win7 and XP) with new motherboard? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:30 PM. | |