| Windows 7: Is Intel Smart Response worth it? |
13 Dec 2011
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Is Intel Smart Response worth it? I recently got a new system and the tech that was commissioned to do the build, mistakenly installed the OS on the SSD rather than the Raid. So as it sits I am unable to utilize the benefits of Intel's Smart Response, which is why I purchased a z68 chipset and MB, along with the SSD. Now my question is, if I were to install the OS on the Raid, after disabling the SSD, so that I can do a fresh install, would it wipe out the contents of the drive, like older versions of Windows used to do? Or is it even worth it, and forego the benefit of the Smart Response technology? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 64bit Pro CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Quad-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.40Ghz, 8MB L3 Motherboard Asus P8Z68 Deluxe/gen3 Memory Corsair XMS3 Classic 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 2000MHz CL9 DIMMs Graphics Card PNY GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB (VCGGTX560TXPB-OC2) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung syncmaster 23inch LED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech (920-002359) Wireless K800 Illuminated Keyboard Mouse Logitech (910-001799) M570 Wireless Trackball PSU CMPSU-750AX Case Corsair Graphite Series 600TM w/ Mesh Side Panel Mid Tower Cooling CWCH80 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda (ST31000524AS) 7200.12 SATA3 6.0Gb/s 1000GB (1TB) 32MB Cache (OEM) x2 Raid 0
OCZ (VTX3-25SAT3-60G) Vertex 3 2.5" 60GB SATA3 6GB/s Solid State Drive, Read: 550MB/s, Write: 495MB/s Internet Speed Pitiful 1mb dl 100kb up |
13 Dec 2011
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#2 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
We see nothing but problems here with RAID. Why do you want it? The only reason I can think of is working with large video files that need to span multiple HD's.
Most of the time it isn't even redundant so you lose both HD's if you lose one. Much better to save a backup image the modern way to the other HD or external.
SSD's are very popular and do in fact boost performance measurably. | My System Specs | | |
13 Dec 2011
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Well the initial idea was to go with 2 Western Digital VelociRaptor 600gb drives, but was informed that a raid 0 setup would net the same results for speed along with the SSD. I use the system primarily for gaming, though I plan to use it for cad and some minor video editing. I do want to know if I try to install on the raid if it will wipe out the existing data? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 64bit Pro CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Quad-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.40Ghz, 8MB L3 Motherboard Asus P8Z68 Deluxe/gen3 Memory Corsair XMS3 Classic 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 2000MHz CL9 DIMMs Graphics Card PNY GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB (VCGGTX560TXPB-OC2) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung syncmaster 23inch LED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech (920-002359) Wireless K800 Illuminated Keyboard Mouse Logitech (910-001799) M570 Wireless Trackball PSU CMPSU-750AX Case Corsair Graphite Series 600TM w/ Mesh Side Panel Mid Tower Cooling CWCH80 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda (ST31000524AS) 7200.12 SATA3 6.0Gb/s 1000GB (1TB) 32MB Cache (OEM) x2 Raid 0
OCZ (VTX3-25SAT3-60G) Vertex 3 2.5" 60GB SATA3 6GB/s Solid State Drive, Read: 550MB/s, Write: 495MB/s Internet Speed Pitiful 1mb dl 100kb up |
13 Dec 2011
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#4 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Why would you install to RAID when you have an SSD?
If Windows 7 will install to the RAID (a big if) you will be given the choice of which partition you want to install upon during the Custom install, as shown in these illustrated steps: Clean Install Windows 7.
Or you can choose to delete any or all partitions and repartition as you desire using the Drive Options (advanced) choice also detailed in above tutorial.
As long as you don't touch the partition where you have your data, it should not be affected. You can label the Partition earlier in Disk Mgmt, or judge by size which it is during install.
But this is not a recommended method as one should always have the data backed up externally to be safest. | My System Specs | | |
13 Dec 2011
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You want the OS on the SSD drive without question. A RAID setup is a good way to get faster sequential read/write rates out of standard mechanical drives...but you will never approach the ultra low random access times that you get with an SSD (0.1ms). That's the real beauty of an SSD is the ability to get to any file any where on the hard drive in 0.1ms.
RAID0 arrays are fine when read/write speed is the only thing you care about. However, with a RAID0 stripe, if either drive fails, you lose all of your data on both drives. And since you have 2 drives instead of 1, your chances of a failure increase with a RAID setup.
I'd highly recommend against using a RAID. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
13 Dec 2011
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So the desired benefit of the Intel Smart Response, is a moot point then? And the current setup of OS on the SSD, and everything else on the raid is preferred, though not having the raid in the first place is better? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 64bit Pro CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Quad-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.40Ghz, 8MB L3 Motherboard Asus P8Z68 Deluxe/gen3 Memory Corsair XMS3 Classic 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 2000MHz CL9 DIMMs Graphics Card PNY GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB (VCGGTX560TXPB-OC2) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung syncmaster 23inch LED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech (920-002359) Wireless K800 Illuminated Keyboard Mouse Logitech (910-001799) M570 Wireless Trackball PSU CMPSU-750AX Case Corsair Graphite Series 600TM w/ Mesh Side Panel Mid Tower Cooling CWCH80 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda (ST31000524AS) 7200.12 SATA3 6.0Gb/s 1000GB (1TB) 32MB Cache (OEM) x2 Raid 0
OCZ (VTX3-25SAT3-60G) Vertex 3 2.5" 60GB SATA3 6GB/s Solid State Drive, Read: 550MB/s, Write: 495MB/s Internet Speed Pitiful 1mb dl 100kb up |
13 Dec 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 California Coast |
I would use the SSD for the OS, and raid the velociraptors for everything else... I personally love my raid 0's, so much faster, and as long as you have good backups there is no worry about a drive failing and taking all the data with it.
I personally think people over hype the risks of raid 0. It's well worth the so called risk for the performance it gives in my opinion. Just have a good backup solution and you're set...
I wouldn't use the smart response setup, just go for the SSD as a system drive... The only time smart response would be better is if you have a very small SSD and it's not large enough to use as a system drive. You'll get much better performance out of just using the SSD as is... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 CPU i7 950 4ghz Motherboard EVGA x58 FTW3 Memory 6GB G.Skill pc12800 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 580 SC Sound Card Xfi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 PSU Thermaltake 850 Case Mountain Mods U2-UFO Horizon Cooling Custom watercooling Hard Drives Vertex 3 SSD 120Gb x2 RAID 0
4 x 1TB WD Black RAID 0 Internet Speed 100 down 5 up |
13 Dec 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 Space Coast of Florida |
For anyone else, like me, who did not know what Intel Smart Response is, here is a good article explaining it and how to set it up: Intel Smart Response Technology Explained | Hardware Secrets | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Precision 370 OS Windows 7 Pro X64 CPU Intel Pentium 4 Dual LP 3.4Ghz Memory 4GB DDR PC2-5200 ECC Graphics Card NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400 Sound Card SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP 22" w2207 LCD Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Hard Drives 300GB Maxtor 6L300RD PATA
128GB Kingston SV200S3128G SSD (boot)
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