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Windows 7: How can i make/install windows 7 using my external hard drive ?

11 Jan 2012   #41
noelian13

windows 7 ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
So you installed with C-drive in AHCI mode ... that should work. But when you change it to IDE mode in BIOS it can fix your problem. That is last thing I would advice you.

Because EVERYTHING is fine! bootmgr, bootmenu, MBR, bootsector. Stop 7B is an error you get when:
  • moving the start point of a partition (with partition software)
  • bios sata is in AHCI mode and win7 isn't or vice versa
But your system is up and running now?
yep just one more question

if i switch my SATA controller in bios from Compatability to AHCI windows 7 wouldn't complain right?

nah...toshiba complains and gives the bsod again...if i switch from compatability to ahci


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11 Jan 2012   #42
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by noelian13 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
So you installed with C-drive in AHCI mode ... that should work. But when you change it to IDE mode in BIOS it can fix your problem. That is last thing I would advice you.


Because EVERYTHING is fine! bootmgr, bootmenu, MBR, bootsector. Stop 7B is an error you get when:
  • moving the start point of a partition (with partition software)
  • bios sata is in AHCI mode and win7 isn't or vice versa
But your system is up and running now?
yep just one more question

if i switch my SATA controller in bios from Compatability to AHCI windows 7 wouldn't complain right?

nah...toshiba complains and gives the bsod again...if i switch from compatability to ahci
Swap to AHCI mode in windows first!
AHCI : Enable in Windows 7 / Vista
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11 Jan 2012   #43
noelian13

windows 7 ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by noelian13 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
So you installed with C-drive in AHCI mode ... that should work. But when you change it to IDE mode in BIOS it can fix your problem. That is last thing I would advice you.


Because EVERYTHING is fine! bootmgr, bootmenu, MBR, bootsector. Stop 7B is an error you get when:
  • moving the start point of a partition (with partition software)
  • bios sata is in AHCI mode and win7 isn't or vice versa
But your system is up and running now?
yep just one more question

if i switch my SATA controller in bios from Compatability to AHCI windows 7 wouldn't complain right?

nah...toshiba complains and gives the bsod again...if i switch from compatability to ahci
Swap to AHCI mode in windows first!
AHCI : Enable in Windows 7 / Vista
ohh ic...is there a performance difference between AHCI/comparability ?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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11 Jan 2012   #44
Kaktussoft

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Quote:
ohh ic...is there a performance difference between AHCI/comparability ?
from wikipedia:
Some operating systems, notably Windows Vista and Windows 7, do not configure themselves to load the AHCI driver upon boot if the drive controller was not in AHCI mode at the time of installation. This can cause failure to boot with an error message if the SATA controller is later switched to AHCI mode. For this reason, Intel recommends changing the drive controller to AHCI or RAID before installing an operating system.

Did you change SATA settings to AHCI after installing windows? And that causes the boot failure.

===============
AHCI is separate from the SATA 3Gb/s standard, although it exposes SATA's advanced capabilities (such as hot swapping and native command queuing) such that host systems can utilize them.

Advanced Host Controller Interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See also Native Command Queuing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

AHCI is default on on most machines! Don't know exactly what performance gain is. Only diskperformance gain if your disk is on heavy load with a lot of applications
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11 Jan 2012   #45
gregrocker

 

With the popularity of drive racks, AHCI is likely default due to convenience of hot-swapping. You can Safely Remove the HD just like an external.
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11 Jan 2012   #46
theog

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Quote:
nah...toshiba complains and gives the bsod again
Can you report back on the HD Drive test.
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11 Jan 2012   #47
Solidus

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
The partition E is NTFS and active ... cool.
the winxp bootsector nor mac bootsector is right!!! You have to put a win7 bootsector on E so it runs bootmgr

from command prompt:

E:\boot\bootsect /nt60 /force /mbr
E:\boot\bootsect /nt60 /force

post results. What happens when booting from usb drive? It is on top of "boot device"-list in BIOS?
I have done those two commands. Here are the results:

"bootsect {/help|/nt60|/nt52} {SYS|ALL|<DriveLetter>:} [/force] [/mbr]

Boot sector restoration tool

Bootsect.exe updates the master boot code for hard disk partitions in order to
switch between BOOTMGR and NTLDR. You can use this tool to restore the boot
sector on your computer.

Run "bootsect /help" for detailed usage instructions."

And I too have the boot order devices correct.
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11 Jan 2012   #48
Kaktussoft

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Command should be
Code:
 
E:\boot\bootsect   /nt60   E:  /force  /mbr
E:\boot\bootsect   /nt60   E:  /force
I put more spaces in commands for visibility. Only one space is needed
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11 Jan 2012   #49
Solidus

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Command should be
Code:
 
E:\boot\bootsect   /nt60   E:  /force  /mbr
E:\boot\bootsect   /nt60   E:  /force
I put more spaces in commands for visibility. Only one space is needed
The following message appears:

"Target volumes will be updated with BOOTMGR compatible bootcode.

E: (\\?\Volume{d96a3c36-39f2-11e1-a720-00265ebd4fa5})

Forced dismount complete, open handles to this volume are now invalid."
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11 Jan 2012   #50
Kaktussoft

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solidus View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Command should be
Code:
 
E:\boot\bootsect   /nt60   E:  /force  /mbr
E:\boot\bootsect   /nt60   E:  /force
I put more spaces in commands for visibility. Only one space is needed
The following message appears:

"Target volumes will be updated with BOOTMGR compatible bootcode.

E: (\\?\Volume{d96a3c36-39f2-11e1-a720-00265ebd4fa5})

Forced dismount complete, open handles to this volume are now invalid."
that's exactly what I want. Replace the partition bootsector with bootmgr code (win7/vista bootsector)

Did you do E:\boot\bootsect /nt60 E: /force /mbr
as well? and succeeded succesfully?
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