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Windows 7: OS on SSD...

24 Jan 2012   #31
gregrocker

 

As stated earlier you need to unplug all other HD's when installing to the SSD.

By installing with the old Win7 HD attached it merely updated the System Boot files on the HD System Reserved partition which is now booting both drives.

This is reparable however if you also incorrectly ran the installer from C rather than booting it, then Win7 will not show as C when booted into the SSD as it does when installed correctly from boot.

If that is the case I'd consider a booted reinstall with all other HD's unplugged so you have the boot files onboard the SSD and it shows as C when booted.

If you don't care about it booting as F and only want to repair it, then create a Primary partition in the 100mb Unallocated space on the SSD labeled "System Reserved" and marked Active, power down to unplug all other HD's, boot the Win7 DVD or System Repair Disk to run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times.

After install, plug back in the HD and boot it when needed using the one-time BIOS Boot Menu key given on first boot screen. Make sure the SSD remains set to boot first (after DVD drive) in BIOS setup.


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24 Jan 2012   #32
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Hi Paul, Didn't you use the Paragon Migration tool to transfer the OS to the SSD. If yes, something went wrong. I never had problems with that program.

You can fix the bootmgr in the 100MB partition as Greg suggested, or you can start anew to get it right. Let us know what you prefer.
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24 Jan 2012   #33
inhaliburton

 

Thank you Greg for your suggested remedies and instructions. I have to read several times for this 70-year-old brain to understand and absorb. I've been around confusers since my first one being the original IBM-PC with 512 K of RAM and a processor running at the blazing speed of about 3 mHz! The cost in the early '80s was about $3,400 Cdn. without a HD. The cost for a 40 mb HD at the time was $600.00. A replacement IBM keyboard that was made from steel and weighed several pounds cost $600. new, and $200 reconditioned.

My experience has been mainly programs rather than operating systems, so I usually only have to go through this stuff when I get a new box.

Yes whs, I used the Paragon tool.

I just checked the "windows" directory and contains 15.5 gb in size, 78,472 files in 15,258 folders.

Seem a lot to me, so I think I'll erase the SSD and start afresh.

Regards, Paul.
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24 Jan 2012   #34
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Hi Paul, if you accept some advice from a 74 year old, I suggest you do this.


1. Transfer the bootmgr on the HDD from the 100MB partition to C:. That 100MB partition is pretty useless in your case. Here is my tutorial on how to do that with just a couple of clicks: Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD

2. Delete the partitions on the SSD with Disk management from your currently running system. Make sure you delete the volumes and the partitions so that you end up with freespace

3. Transfer the the OS again with the Paragon Tool

4. Change the bootorder in the BIOS to boot from the SSD. And if this works and Win7 boots well and woks well from the SSD, you can delete the OS partition and the 100MB partition on the HDD - with Disk Management.

PS: If you want to be extra careful. make an image of your C: partition on the HDD to an external disk before you do step 1. Here is how: Imaging with free Macrium That way you can always get back in case something happens to C:. Imaging is the best way to protect yourself. You should do it periodically (e.g. weekly) anyhow. But then from the SSD.
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01 Feb 2012   #35
inhaliburton

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Hi Paul, if you accept some advice from a 74 year old, I suggest you do this.


1. Transfer the bootmgr on the HDD from the 100MB partition to C:. That 100MB partition is pretty useless in your case. Here is my tutorial on how to do that with just a couple of clicks: Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD

2. Delete the partitions on the SSD with Disk management from your currently running system. Make sure you delete the volumes and the partitions so that you end up with freespace

3. Transfer the the OS again with the Paragon Tool

4. Change the bootorder in the BIOS to boot from the SSD. And if this works and Win7 boots well and woks well from the SSD, you can delete the OS partition and the 100MB partition on the HDD - with Disk Management.

PS: If you want to be extra careful. make an image of your C: partition on the HDD to an external disk before you do step 1. Here is how: Imaging with free Macrium That way you can always get back in case something happens to C:. Imaging is the best way to protect yourself. You should do it periodically (e.g. weekly) anyhow. But then from the SSD.

I'm all set to go. I've done the boot manager transfer as you suggested and am about to perform step 2.

Regards, Paul.


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01 Feb 2012   #36
PeaB4YouGo

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by inhaliburton View Post
Not shown at the bottom is Disk 0, the CD-ROM drive. Previously, a recovery disk was in the drive.

Gateway C: is is the original disk with Windows 7.

Gateway BU E: is a data partition I created on drive C:

SSD F: is the drive I'm trying to get active.

I did use the suggested program in the tutorial to migrate the system files to the SSD.

Thanks for your advice and patience.

Paul.
Am I wrong, or does the MBR still need to move onto the SSD? Just a question?
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01 Feb 2012   #37
gregrocker

 

I believe he's following Wolfgang's latest suggestion to move System boot files to C then reimage it to SSD again. Is this correct, Paul?

It appears the System boot files have been moved but C still needs to be marked Active, then tested that it will boot. You can use PW CD to Modify>Set to Active. If it fails to boot click on Disk 1 to highlight it then from Disk tab select Rebuild MBR, Apply, reboot.
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01 Feb 2012   #38
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Greg, if he moved the bootmgr with EasyBCD, the SSD partition would automatically be marked 'active'. Unfortunately that is not obvious from the screenshot because this bootable CD does not show the 'Status' column. The OP may have to highlight the partition for it to show up.
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02 Feb 2012   #39
gregrocker

 

PW screenshot shows that System flag is on C as you suggested, but yet no Active flag which remains on SysReserved.



I assume he's preparing C to image it over to the SSD which he plans to fully Delete first as you suggested. If asked,he wants Track1 and MBR included, C drive letter and for it to remain Primary Active, correct?
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02 Feb 2012   #40
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Dah, as usual you are right. I have set my IE to 175% (because of my bad eyesight) and forgot to move the bottom cursor to the right. So I did not see that column. In my PW, the Status column is in front of the Type column. So I just assumed it was not there. One should never assume.

But now I wonder what happened. In the BCD description it says:


Quote:

When you confirm the selection, EasyBCD will automatically:
  • Install the BOOTMGR bootloader to the selected partition
  • Make the selected partition active
  • Install the bootloader to both the bootsector and the MBR of the selected partition
  • Copy all entries from the old boot partition to the newly-selected one
  • Update partition references to work with the new boot partition
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