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Windows 7: Advice and direction on installing OS on new SSD with multiple HHD's

19 Feb 2012   #31
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by rtmeek View Post
In other words, what you are saying is: It's best to install windows -user files and all- on C, then manually set up new folders on D, name them what you wish, then include the folder from C to the new folder on D so your data is now saved in C & D. Then if you ever reinstall the OS on C you can just copy the data from the D folders back to C? (whew). Right?
No, no - as Ignatz says, your own data goes on D and the odd program folder goes on the default C folders.

And you INCLUDE the folders you defined in D into the corresponding libraries. There is no inclusion of folders into folders. But then all your user files go to D.

If you want to keep the default C folders all empty, right click on the library folders > Properties, highlight the D folder and click the "Set save Location' button. Then Apply. But then you get the system generated folders with your own folders. I personally do not like that.

And never move system files off the SSD. That is not productive.


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19 Feb 2012   #32
gregrocker

 

I wonder how the other geeks here feel about moving User folders now that it's been a common recommended practice for several years. I have stopped doing so because of permissioning issue I got on my all-important Downloads folder while trying to run .exe's - a problem I couldn't fix except by moving Downloads back to C.

We also regularly hear from those unhappy because the data drive is forcibly included in Win7 backup imaging. We all know well the weaknesses of W7 backup imaging and many have abandoned it, but it still works well for others and may be a issue when they can't achieve a lean OS/Programs image sans data because they moved their User folders.

So I'm torn.
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19 Feb 2012   #33
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Well, with a 60GB SSD you have no option. The user data nust be moved to the HDD. But I never move the default location but INCLUDE new folders that I create on the data partitions. That works quite well for me.
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19 Feb 2012   #34
gregrocker

 

Using this method, Wolfgang? Library - Include a Folder - Windows 7 Forums
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19 Feb 2012   #35
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Yes Greg, forgot that there was a tutorial for such a simple operation. LOL
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19 Feb 2012   #36
rtmeek

windows 7 pro 64 bit SP 1
 
 

But my problem is that I already have my user folders in D -not C- (where all data is being saved) and a Windows image insists I have to include both drives C & D; but I didn't want D to be on my image. I think Gregrocker is trying to explain the best way to accomplish that. I just need the info in a bit more basic language to completely understand what I am trying (or need) to do to accomplish it (I need it simple). My basic objective is to make an OS reinstall painless regardless of how many SSDs or HHDs it takes. But apparently Windows is written in a way that does not consider what people go through in a reinstall, or, that Windows may ever become corrupt, or that HDs may fail.
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19 Feb 2012   #37
gregrocker

 

You can either:

Move your User folders back to C if you want to use Win7 backup imaging and not have D included in it: How to Restore the Default Location of Windows 7 User Folders. Then link data stored on D using libraries: Library - Include a Folder - Windows 7 Forums

Or you can use free Macrium Reflect to save a backup image for only C. Macrium - Image your system.

There are others such as Acronis premium app included free is you have a WD or Seagate HD in the mix, and Paragon 11. But Macrium is the freeware choice of most here.
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19 Feb 2012   #38
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

If you stick with Windows imaging, you will be doomed anyhow. I would do the following:

1. Move the default locations of your folders back to C.

2. Create new folders for Documents, Music, etc. on D.

3. Move your data folders do those folders - no change of default locations. When you are done, the folders on C are empty.

4. Get the Paragon Migration Tool for $19.95. That will do all the work for you with 3 clicks. I have great fear that moving the system with an image will stretch your capabilities. I hope you don't mind me saying that.

5. Once you run on the SSD, go to your folders on D, right click on them and INCLUDE them into the corresponding library. --- All done.
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19 Feb 2012   #39
rtmeek

windows 7 pro 64 bit SP 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
You can either:

Move your User folders back to C if you want to use Win7 backup imaging and not have D included in it: How to Restore the Default Location of Windows 7 User Folders. Then link data stored on D using libraries: Library - Include a Folder - Windows 7 Forums

Or you can use free Macrium Reflect to save a backup image for only C. Macrium - Image your system.

There are others such as Acronis premium app included free is you have a WD or Seagate HD in the mix, and Paragon 11. But Macrium is the freeware choice of most here.
Gregrocker, In one of your earlier posts you let me know abut Windows backup not liking the user folder being on D; That an image would include both drives. So I made an image with Acronis of just dive C in case I needed a reinstall. but something in the back of my mind is telling me that senairo would fail in a reinstall as something in Windows would probably need something from the user files or programdata file in D to reinstall.

It just aggravates me that the tutorial and thread on this subject never mentioned this potential problem. I would never have relocated the files if I knew!

So, from all the back and forth, I'm going to put the user files back in C then link my data to D..........I'm sure I'll some more questions about that.

Thanks
Ted
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19 Feb 2012   #40
rtmeek

windows 7 pro 64 bit SP 1
 
 

[QUOTE=whs;1803941]If you stick with Windows imaging, you will be doomed anyhow. I would do the following:

1. Move the default locations of your folders back to C.

2. Create new folders for Documents, Music, etc. on D.

3. Move your data folders do those folders - no change of default locations. When you are done, the folders on C are empty.

4. Get the Paragon Migration Tool for $19.95. That will do all the work for you with 3 clicks.
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I have great fear that moving the system with an image will stretch your capabilitiesI hope you don't mind me saying that. 
5. Once you run on the SSD, go to your folders on D, right click on them and INCLUDE them into the corresponding library. --- All done.

Don't mind at all; the Windows software and how it works is something I readily admit that I'm no expert on...but I'm learning, and you guys on this forum are simply great in your advice. You know, my grand kids in 1st grade have laptops on their desk-they will be wizzes- When I was in college we used slide rules and a basic hand held calculator (that is now free) cost $600. BUTT, if you tell me what to do, I can do it -then I'll know. Thanks
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