| Windows 7: Cloned 1TB C: Drive to new 2TB, now I can't get Windows Update. |
12 Feb 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 5 posts |
Cloned 1TB C: Drive to new 2TB, now I can't get Windows Update. I just used Acronis True Image WD Edition to clone my 1TB WD SATA drive to a 2TB Seagate SATA Drive to upgrade the boot drive in my HP PC. The cloning process went well and was without errors, and the computer boots fine from the new drive. All settings are correct, etc. The problem is that I can no longer get Windows Updates, download updates to Security Essentials, or upload troubleshooting info to MS. I can access the internet, browse sites, download files, get e-mail, etc. I did have to reactivate Office 2010 when I booted from the new drive, and that went fine.
Windows Update gives me an error message that the update service is not running and I should restart the computer. However, according to services.msc, the update service is running. I tried stopping and restarting the service but it didn't change anything. It was suggested that this hardware change might have caused Windows to deactivate, but it still shows as activated. Nonetheless, I reactivated it (successfully) but there was no change.
The UAC message I get before I run any MS system program (like mmc) shows the publisher as "Unknown". My user account (the only one on the machine) has Administrator privileges, but in order to run certain system programs from the command prompt I have to invoke cmd.exe by selecting "Run as Administrator" or else I'll get the message that I must have Administrator privileges to run the particular system program.
When I reinstalled the original 1TB drive, everything worked fine.
Frankly I'm stumped and would appreciate any ideas as to what may have happened and how to fix it.
Thanks! | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP a1777c OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 4300 1.8 GHz Memory 4 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT440 Monitor(s) Displays HP w22 Hard Drives 2 TB Seagate SATA |
12 Feb 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit 446 posts Peterborough, England |
Welcome to Windows Seven Forums.
This a real stab in the dark, but I'm wondering if the problem is related to the fact you've cloned to a larger size drive?
Perhaps partitioning the 2TB drive into 2x1TB partitions might help?
Failing that, I'll defer to experts who have more knowledge on drive systems and cloning than I do. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
12 Feb 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 5 posts |
I suppose it's possible, but the PC doesn't have any troubles recognizing, booting from or accessing the drive.
It's almost as though the OS has "forgotten" who Microsoft is (as evidenced by its showing the publisher of MS system programs as "Unknown") and/or that file and folder ownerships and privileges have somehow become corrupted. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP a1777c OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 4300 1.8 GHz Memory 4 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT440 Monitor(s) Displays HP w22 Hard Drives 2 TB Seagate SATA |
12 Feb 2012
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| | Win 8 RP, Win 7, XP 242 posts |
The problem is maybe that security modules are not functioning properly.
Try creating a new user account with admin privileges and see if it can start system programs and Microsoft is recognized as publisher. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Notebook OS Win 8 RP, Win 7, XP CPU Intel |
12 Feb 2012
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| | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit 6,538 posts |
Welcome swperk Now I use EaseUS to do as EVERYONE knows after I go on about it so much - have never had a problem like this with my clones and in fact I used to keep two 1TB drives in the machine before the SSD and regularly clone form one to the other and then unplug the one I cloned from and use the fresh clone.
It was just a matter of re-cloning back to get an "updated" drive and repeat the process I find this better than backing up to be honest. If one drive crashes completely the others there ready to go.
EaseUS is free and only has one drawback you can only clone from small to large ot same to same ie 1TB to 2TB or 1TB to 1TB
Might be worth a try mate Easeus Todo Backup Free - Download.com < easier than the site watch out for the add on Ask bars or whatever happens to pop up during install and look what have you got to lose? All you need is a spare drive to test out on if you don't want to use the original drives. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
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12 Feb 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 5 posts |
Thanks for all the suggestions.
I tried using the Window Update troubleshooter, and I was encouraged when it told me it found two bad components and repaired them, but that didn't fix it. Every time I run it, it says it found two bad components and fixed them, but every time no success. The errors it reports are that one or more Update components were configured incorrectly, and that the Windows Update location had to be change to the default location.
I set up a new administrator account, but the same problems remain.
I have EaseUS installed, but do not have another drive with enough capacity to try it out on yet. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP a1777c OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 4300 1.8 GHz Memory 4 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT440 Monitor(s) Displays HP w22 Hard Drives 2 TB Seagate SATA |
13 Feb 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit 446 posts Peterborough, England |
You may also want to download and run the System Updates Readiness Tool, which is designed to fix updating problems. Download: System Update Readiness Tool for Windows 7 (KB947821) [August 2011] - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details
This is the 32-bit version. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
13 Feb 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 5 posts |
Thanks once again for the help. I ran SFC /SCANNOW and it said it found errors that it couldn't fix. I just ran the Readiness Tool but it stopped with an Installer error 0xc8000247.
I don't know what else to try besides re-cloning with Acronis.
Very strange! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP a1777c OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 4300 1.8 GHz Memory 4 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT440 Monitor(s) Displays HP w22 Hard Drives 2 TB Seagate SATA Cloned 1TB C: Drive to new 2TB, now I can't get Windows Update. problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:13 PM. | |