| Windows 7: Can I blast away EFI OS on second drive without bad Juju? |
16 Apr 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) Lethbridge, AB |
Can I blast away EFI OS on second drive without bad Juju? 
Disk 1 is the Windows 7 boot drive, which is MBR
Disk 0 is the secondary 1TB drive, which is GPT the partitions are: files, Windows 8 installer partition, bunch of UEFI partitions, then the Windows 8 boot partition.
The bootloaders are completely independent of each other, with the Windows 7 booting by selecting the disk and Win8 by selecting a "Windows Boot" option in the BIOS/EFI boot menu.
My question IS: can I blast away all of the other partitions on Disk 0 (except for the files one) without borking anything? and will that remove the "Windows Boot" option in the boot menu?
thanks. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple 17" iMac MA199LL (Early 2006) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) CPU 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) (upgrade) Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory Monitor(s) Displays 17-inch TFT active-matrix LCD, millions of colors Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 Hard Drives Hitachi 320GB HDT721032SLA360 7200RPM SATA II (upgrade) Internet Speed 4 Mbps Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info WEI:
Base Score: 3.9 Processor: 4.4 Memory 4.7
Graphics: 3.9 Gaming Graphics: 4.1 Primary HD: 5.9 |
16 Apr 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Williamsville, NY |
So you want to boot into disk 1 and then simply use the other disk for storage? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware m15x (my main PC) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i7 740QM Memory G. Skill 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 @ 1333MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460M Sound Card IDT Integrated HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 15.6HDF+ WLED Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Razer Orochi Hard Drives 240GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD Internet Speed 50Mb/s Other Info Intel Ultimate N Wi-Fi Link 5300, Bluetooth 2.0 |
17 Apr 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) Lethbridge, AB |
Pretty much. To the bset of my knowledge the bootloaders are completely isolated, but I am unsure how the new boot menu option in the BIOS was created. Did the Windows installer actually added itself to the EfI's memory chip, or is the EFI finding the boot partition on the disk on bootup? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple 17" iMac MA199LL (Early 2006) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) CPU 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) (upgrade) Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory Monitor(s) Displays 17-inch TFT active-matrix LCD, millions of colors Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 Hard Drives Hitachi 320GB HDT721032SLA360 7200RPM SATA II (upgrade) Internet Speed 4 Mbps Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info WEI:
Base Score: 3.9 Processor: 4.4 Memory 4.7
Graphics: 3.9 Gaming Graphics: 4.1 Primary HD: 5.9 |
17 Apr 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Williamsville, NY |
Yes they're isolated. The efi looking interface you're referring to is just a part of windows 8. They finally got rid of all those DOS era menus (white text on a black background) in order to make it look more user friendly. Like you, I tried the windows 8 preview as a dual boot option and eventually grew tired of it and decided to remove it. I can confirm that after you remove the installation of 8, the new menu types will go away with it and you will have a normal installation of 7. I would also make sure that you unmark the data only drive as active after you uninstall 8 from it just to be sure windows doesn't attempt to boot from it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware m15x (my main PC) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i7 740QM Memory G. Skill 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 @ 1333MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460M Sound Card IDT Integrated HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 15.6HDF+ WLED Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Razer Orochi Hard Drives 240GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD Internet Speed 50Mb/s Other Info Intel Ultimate N Wi-Fi Link 5300, Bluetooth 2.0 |
17 Apr 2012
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#5 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Unplug Disk 0 with the unwanted OS and boot partitions, swap its data cable to Disk1 Windows 7, set as HD to boot first in BIOS setup. Then test that it boots OK on its own, which it should since it's System Reserved boot partition remains System Active.
If so you can plug back in the other drive to Disk1 cable, delete the unwanted partitions in Disk Management or if it refuses by using Diskpart "Delete Partition Override" command after bringing the partition into focus with Diskpart. | My System Specs | | |
17 Apr 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) Lethbridge, AB |
@gregrocker. The SSD is using the first SATA and is set as the first boot drive. The hard drive didn't become Disk 0 until after I converted it to gpt.
@emaraszek not sure we are on the same page. My mothrboards bootstrap interface is IDENTICAL to standard BIOS interfaces, presumably because it's a low end model. I'm referring to that, since installing Windows 8 on the second drive, there is a new entry in my motherboard's boot menu/boot ovverride menu. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple 17" iMac MA199LL (Early 2006) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (upgrade) CPU 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) (upgrade) Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 memory Monitor(s) Displays 17-inch TFT active-matrix LCD, millions of colors Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 Hard Drives Hitachi 320GB HDT721032SLA360 7200RPM SATA II (upgrade) Internet Speed 4 Mbps Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome Other Info WEI:
Base Score: 3.9 Processor: 4.4 Memory 4.7
Graphics: 3.9 Gaming Graphics: 4.1 Primary HD: 5.9 |
17 Apr 2012
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#7 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
OK, so test the Windows 7 HD by itself set first to boot to see if it boots.
If so, plug back in the other HD to delete the unwanted partitions as given earlier. | My System Specs | | |
17 Apr 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Williamsville, NY |
I'm referring to the new style of clickable boot menus that appear in windows 8, which is what it sounded like you were referring to in your original post. I'm not sure if you're now referring to BIOS boot menus or windows boot menus. A windows boot menu may appear if, for example, you shut down your computer the wrong way, have two operating systems loaded on the same disk, etc. This is the menu that will offer options such as safe mode and recovery. The BIOS boot menu would be something that appears if, for example, you repeatedly hit F12 (standard on Dell PCs) when you first power up the machine. This will give you the option to boot from a hard drive, optical drive, USB, network boot, etc. Could you clarify whether the menus you're referring to are BIOS menus or windows menus? I've just never seen a BIOS menu call anything "windows boot" which leads me to believe you're actually talking about a windows boot menu. If that's the case, the windows 8 boot menus are the ones that are efi-esque (clickable), while the windows 7 menus are white text on a black background and are keyboard navigable only.
At any rate, there should be no reason to unplug any drives during this process especially since these installations are on two separate physical drives and not just separate partitions. Once you get back to me on these menus I can give you more specific advice depending on your unique setup. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware m15x (my main PC) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i7 740QM Memory G. Skill 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 @ 1333MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460M Sound Card IDT Integrated HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 15.6HDF+ WLED Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Razer Orochi Hard Drives 240GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD Internet Speed 50Mb/s Other Info Intel Ultimate N Wi-Fi Link 5300, Bluetooth 2.0 |
17 Apr 2012
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#9 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
If you don't first unplug the unwanted OS HD to test if Windows 7 will boot on its own then you will not know this for sure until after the unwanted OS/boot partitions are deleted on the Win8 disk, possibly requiring emergency repairs from Windows 7 DVD or System Repair CD with the Win8 HD unplugged. | My System Specs | | |
17 Apr 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Williamsville, NY |
We were specifically told that the boot loaders are isolated from each other and are located on two separate disks. Hence there is no relation between the installations and no need to physically change anything | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware m15x (my main PC) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i7 740QM Memory G. Skill 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 @ 1333MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460M Sound Card IDT Integrated HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 15.6HDF+ WLED Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Razer Orochi Hard Drives 240GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD Internet Speed 50Mb/s Other Info Intel Ultimate N Wi-Fi Link 5300, Bluetooth 2.0 Can I blast away EFI OS on second drive without bad Juju? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:47 PM. | |