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Windows 7: Reinstall with OEM key on same system - Not Genuine ?

23 Apr 2012   #1

Windows 7 Pro
 
 
Reinstall with OEM key on same system - Not Genuine ?

I bought a Thinkpad T500 labeled as Refurbished by Lenovo somewhere in USA. It was sold by a large scale ebay dealer listing a large inventory of "Factory Refurbished" Thinkpads. It came with an OEM Windows 7 Pro installation, but it was not a standard Lenovo image that comes with a new system. To get rid of the bloatware and to get a system pre-configured, I restored a disk image of a clean setup from another similar Thinkpad and then Activated after changing to the OEM key that was on the system I bought.

I then checked the installation with the Genuine Validation Tool and it was marked as Not Genuine and I have been getting daily pop-ups that Windows is not Genuine.

The Question Finally:

Does this mean the original system was not Genuine because of Dealer disk duplication without changing keys, or does it mean that you can't do what I did.

There are 3 possible answers
1. A fresh installation using the original OEM key not allowed.
2. Changing to the OEM key on an imported installation before activating is not allowed.
3. The dealer sent a system that was not Genuine.


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23 Apr 2012   #2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

If I had to guess, I'd guess the key is bogus, mostly because Ebay is known to be full of that stuff.

Have you tried installing from a legit ISO as downloaded from mydigitallife.info and then burned to a disc? A valid key will activate such an install.

Did you make an image of the installation as you originally received it on the Thinkpad or did you make recovery disks? I ask because it may be that the "disk image of a clean setup from another similar Thinkpad" did not restore properly or does not match your key properly.
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23 Apr 2012   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit
 
 

I'd also be inclined to think the key is no good.

What ignatzatsonic suggests may get you out of trouble, but personally, I'd be asking for a refund from eBay.

You could also file a piracy report with Microsoft in an attempt to get these dealers put out of business. Microsoft may have been known to provide you with a genuine product key as a way of rewarding your co-operation in naming and shaming these counterfeit traders.

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/reporting/faq.aspx
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23 Apr 2012   #4
Microsoft MVP

 

Try this: Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

Everything you need is in the blue link.
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24 Apr 2012   #5

Windows 7 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Try this: Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

Everything you need is in the blue link.
Thanks, but my question was about the failed Validation of an imported installation using the original OEM key.
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24 Apr 2012   #6

Windows 7 Pro
 
 

As a test I did a fresh install with OEM media using the original OEM key and it was marked Genuine by the Genuine Validation Tool.

- So the guy sent a Genuine Windows system.
- A fresh install with the original key works
- but, the imported installation, succesfully activated with the original key was not Genuine . .. why not ??

For future reference, I would like to know why an Imported Installation using the original key did not work. Will it never work, or was my case a glitch of some kind. ?
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24 Apr 2012   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by swbca View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Try this: Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

Everything you need is in the blue link.
Thanks, but my question was about the failed Validation of an imported installation using the original OEM key.
If you're not prepared to consider this as a viable solution we can only assume you suspect your Windows software is not genuine.

If that is the case I stand by my initial advice, which was to ask for a refund from eBay and report the matter to Microsoft.
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24 Apr 2012   #8
Microsoft MVP

 

It's hard to say why the image you imported would not activate but the clean reinstall would. It was only a hunch and worth a try, so I suggested it. I'm glad you went ahead and tried it after initially rejecting it as if my answer was impertinent.

You end up with an activated Clean install which is vastly superior compared to an image off of another Thinkpad which is sketchy to begin with and contains the load of factory bloatware which no tech enthusiast would keep.

Once you get the updates installed, any drivers missing can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for your model - along with necessary software once it becomes apparent that it is needed and not just duplicative crapware.

You're welcome.
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24 Apr 2012   #9

Windows 7 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
It's hard to say why the image you imported would not activate but the clean reinstall would. It was only a hunch and worth a try, so I suggested it. I'm glad you went ahead and tried it after initially rejecting it as if my answer was impertinent.

You end up with an activated Clean install which is vastly superior compared to an image off of another Thinkpad which is sketchy to begin with and contains the load of factory bloatware which no tech enthusiast would keep.

Once you get the updates installed, any drivers missing can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for your model - along with necessary software once it becomes apparent that it is needed and not just duplicative crapware.

You're welcome.
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound impertinent, but the process for performing a clean install was unrelated to my question.

The imported installation would Activate but not Validate

Also the image I was installing was from a brand new fresh-from-scratch archived installation where the processor speed and LCD resolution were the only differences from the target. No drivers were changing and we intentionally work on a single platform so we can keep a fresh deployment image of our full setup which is complex and specific to our business.

Regarding my question . . it still seems that the activation process and the validation process have variables that I can't decipher. I had never tried using an OEM key before on an imported installation. Normally we use a Microsoft partner key, but since I had the OEM key I preferred to preserve the Partner key.

I still would like to know for future reference if this will never work, or if it was a random problem. We are running out of Windows 7 key so I would prefer to use OEM keys when we can.

Thanks
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24 Apr 2012   #10
Microsoft MVP

 

Why are you still saying the process to Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 is unrelated when you tried it, it worked, and you now have the full value of your purchase with an even better installation than the one you tried to jimmy in?

I've always been able to activate an imported image. If it activated are you sure a Non-Genuine error was not a false positive?
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