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Windows 7: repair install

25 May 2012   #81
gregrocker

 

I've never heard of a wireless keyboard and mouse not starting with Windows. Usually it's only an unneeded bloatware package trying to start up, and FYI this software is the cause of frequent problems.

How do these devices boot and navigate your disks if they need software running?


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25 May 2012   #82
F5ing

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

If it's the Logitech stuff I've seen, there is mouse/keyboard functionality without it, but none of the enhanced features of the two would be available until these apps were manually started.
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25 May 2012   #83
drpepper

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit
 
 

I phrased that part wrong. I wasn't expecting to need to include details. Since I purchased the mouse and keyboard as a combo, I consider them to be one piece of hardware. I know that they aren't, but I have not trained myself to thinks of them as separate pieces. Part of my wireless functions have to be manually enabled if not included in start up. I inadvertently press cap lock from time to time which is real irritating if I am looking at something in hard copy form while typing. Cap lock and num lock notifications don't work without having Logitech programs enabled at start up. The wireless keyboard does not have indicator lights. The positioning of the indicator lights and their icons on the laptop is not such that I can determine which of the lights (cap lock or num lock) is on without moving my head around to get the proper light angle to tell which is activated. I also have not been able to use my custom hot keys without the Logitech software running. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but that is my experience.

Before purchasing the mouse/keyboard combo, the laptop gave me fits. The smaller keyboard made typos too common. The touchpad caused too many problems from accidentally contacting it while typing. I resolved that issue by disabling tap to click, but that disabled other touchpad functions I wished to use. It looks like I am between the rock and the hard place with the ease of use versus your referenced frequent problems.
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25 May 2012   #84
F5ing

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

The point is to have the minimum starting automatically on boot and keep it that way. If it's something you feel you need right after every boot, then fine, you would be starting it on your own everytime anyway. It's all the other crap that's always trying to get into that same "autostart" category that you want to keep out of there.

Is it Logitech Setpoint software that you are using? Make sure you are using the updated version of it. I think that would be 6.22, some of the earlier versions were known to be problematic.

Bottom line, it's your own satisfaction you're trying to achieve. If you feel you need it, and can live with it, then keep it.
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25 May 2012   #85
drpepper

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit
 
 

F5ing,

Yes, it is Logitech Setpoint for 64-bit. The version is 6.10.55.0 which was shown as the current version when I checked for updates a few days ago.The combo is MK550 if that makes any difference.

I just checked for updates and found version 6.32, which I installed. I make it a practice to check for updates weekly and had myself scheduled to check Saturday.
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25 May 2012   #86
F5ing

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Well, looks like you're set then. As long as you don't have a problem with the extra time it takes to boot with that loading, it doesn't interfere with w7 or any of your other programs, and it provides the functionality you "require".

By the way, that's the kind of software I wouldn't worry too much about keeping up to date. There are no security issues to worry about. As long as it's functioning well and error free in your system, and don't need the extra features that may be provided by a newer version, you may as well leave it alone rather than taking the chance on a newer version. Especially if it's a brand new version that's not yet well distributed amongst many users (and therefore not widely tested).

I just mentioned it to begin with because I had heard of some of the earlier versions causing problems. Something I typically pay attention to when working on someone else's machine that has it.
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25 May 2012   #87
drpepper

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit
 
 

Thanks for the explanation. I searched for info on previous versions and found that some of the 5.x versions of Setpoint had some issues and the 6.x seems to be trouble free. Without the usefulness of the larger keyboard and a real mouse I prefer the old XP desktop for home use. I willingly deal with the laptop's shortcomings when away from home to allow me to use a computer configured to my preferences. My preliminary intended use for the laptop was to be at school until I used Win7 for awhile. Now I use the laptop as my primary computer because of Win7.

My cold boot time is in the 20-30 second range. I have no complaints with that. I suppose that I could trim another 5-10 seconds, but that is not significant to me. Virtually all the other computers I have ever used take around a minute or more, some as long as five minutes, but those are not my machines.
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25 May 2012   #88
F5ing

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drpepper View Post
I searched for info on previous versions and found that some of the 5.x versions of Setpoint had some issues and the 6.x seems to be trouble free.
Yeah, that seems to be along the lines of what I remember. I recall rolling back some PC's I was fixing back to some 4.x version when 5.x was out. But there was usually a lot more I was doing with those machines so I'm unsure how bad 5.x really was. Nowadays I just make sure it's up to 6.x when I run across a machine with it.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drpepper View Post
My cold boot time is in the 20-30 second range. I have no complaints with that. I suppose that I could trim another 5-10 seconds, but that is not significant to me. Virtually all the other computers I have ever used take around a minute or more, some as long as five minutes, but those are not my machines.
Those 5 minute boot machines obviously need work, and probably not just booting. I'd bet there are plenty of other issues just using them after they're up.

Keep up your images/backups as your system changes and you're all set....
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25 May 2012   #89
drpepper

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit
 
 

I constantly remind myself about two friend's computers I tackled to speed them up. The computers had not been maintained with routine security scans, updates, backups, and file maintenance. They were a nightmare for me because of my limited knowledge and experience at the time, but I learned a whole bunch by taking on the tasks. The same friends have complained within six months of problems again because of lack of routine maintenance.

That was enough to make me maintain my machines despite the extra time involved to stay with a routine.
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26 May 2012   #90
drpepper

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit
 
 

by the way ... in addition to the comments about keeping my computer running fast in the previous post...

There is one other area I keep an eye on at least twice a week, Ccleaner. For the past two days I have spent over eight hours per day in internet research and further tweaking of my libraries. My system was Ccleaned the day before doing that work. A fresh run of Ccleaner found over 700MB of assorted temporary files to be removed. That kind of stuff can really build up over time and slow things down significantly.
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