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Windows 7: OS Load problem

07 May 2012   #1
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 
OS Load problem

Have just fitted a Samsung 830 SSD and diskparted it to have that essential 1024 partition as per WHS instruction s then did the install as per Shawns clean install after unhooking all other HDD's.

Now I boot > post > then a black screen with a message in white letters saying "Loading operating system...................(<white dots runs for 25 secs or more) > then flag starts to form and > UAC password. After that it flies but the load message has become a nightmare since I installed the first SSD an M4 some time ago.

The same happens using the old HDD's Is there anyone who can shed some light on this problem for me please as it is going to drive me crazy.

System is a Gigabyte H67UD3H-B3 board with a i5 2500 processsor and 8GB of DDR3 1333mhz RAM in it.

I have run memtests and scans and even come down to buying this Samsung to see if I can rid myself of what is a truly maddening problem.

I am even thinking perhaps there is somethingin the BIOS that has gone worng -have not done any updates on it as I am reluctant to touch that sort of stuff.


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07 May 2012   #2
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Disconnect all other drives.
Forget all of that SSD alignment stuff.
You are dealing with a Win 7 install.
Let me reassure you, Win 7 installer is very smart. Win 7 creates partitions correctly, aligned correctly, sets everything else correctly.

End result.
Disconnect all other drives.
Boot up from a win 7 DVD.
Follow the procedure I give to wipe that ssd clean (a simple format does not hack it).
Install Win 7.

CLEAN A HARD DISK PRIOR TO WINDOWS 7 INSTALL USING YOUR WINDOWS 7 DVD

TURN OFF THE COMPUTER WITH THE DVD TRAY OPEN
Turn on your computer.
Open the DVD door.
Turn off the computer with the DVD door open.

BOOT FROM YOUR WINDOWS 7 DVD AND GO TO A COMMAND PROMPT
Insert the Windows 7 DVD and close the DVD door.
Power on your computer.
When that very first dialog appears where you would normally push the NEXT button, then use the SHIFT + F10 key combo to get to a command prompt.
The command prompt will be X:>


USE THE DISKPART PROGRAM TO “CLEAN” THE HARD DISK
Type the commands shown, hitting the Enter key after each.

Do not proceed to the next command until the current command is finished.

DISKPART (the command prompt will change to DISKPART>)
LIST DISK (this will list the disks present)
SELECT DISK 0 (assuming disk zero is the desired hard disk)
DETAIL DISK (this will show you info regarding the disk you selected)
CLEAN ALL (this is the command to write zeros to entire disk)
This can take half a day for a 2 Terabyte disk.
EXIT(this will exit you from the DiskPart program)
EXIT(this will exit you back to the Windows 7 install program)
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07 May 2012   #3
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by karlsnooks View Post
Disconnect all other drives.
Forget all of that SSD alignment stuff.
You are dealing with a Win 7 install.
Let me reassure you, Win 7 installer is very smart. Win 7 creates partitions correctly, aligned correctly, sets everything else correctly.

End result.
Disconnect all other drives.
Boot up from a win 7 DVD.
Follow the procedure I give to wipe that ssd clean (a simple format does not hack it).
Install Win 7.


CLEAN A HARD DISK PRIOR TO WINDOWS 7 INSTALL USING YOUR WINDOWS 7 DVD


TURN OFF THE COMPUTER WITH THE DVD TRAY OPEN
Turn on your computer.
Open the DVD door.
Turn off the computer with the DVD door open.

BOOT FROM YOUR WINDOWS 7 DVD AND GO TO A COMMAND PROMPT
Insert the Windows 7 DVD and close the DVD door.
Power on your computer.
When that very first dialog appears where you would normally push the NEXT button, then use the SHIFT + F10 key combo to get to a command prompt.
The command prompt will be X:>


USE THE DISKPART PROGRAM TO CLEAN THE HARD DISK
Type the commands shown, hitting the Enter key after each.

Do not proceed to the next command until the current command is finished.

DISKPART (the command prompt will change to DISKPART>)
LIST DISK (this will list the disks present)
SELECT DISK 0 (assuming disk zero is the desired hard disk)
DETAIL DISK (this will show you info regarding the disk you selected)
CLEAN ALL (this is the command to write zeros to entire disk)
This can take half a day for a 2 Terabyte disk.
EXIT(this will exit you from the DiskPart program)
EXIT(this will exit you back to the Windows 7 install program)
Ok karl I'll give that a go as this drive is absolutely lightning fast so far and If I can get rid of that load problem it would be so pleasant to use my machine again in some form of orderly fashion.
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07 May 2012   #4
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Well I ma on the third try Karl and I get as far as point - Shift+F10 and nothing happens it just carries on installing.

The boot is just the same and if anything slower than the M4 now - it was like lightning the first install.

So I guess I am just going to have to put up with it as once the OS is up and running at least then it is really quick.

By the by the Samsung came with it's own software disk with a heap of tools on it and I optimised the drive and did a benchmark too and it also has it's own secure erase and cloning features. Which might prove to be handy and not only that but a Norton Ghost software disk that could be useful I suppose.

I am going to try the drive/s in my laptop tomorrow and see what happens if the boot is normal then something is quite wrong with my board.


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07 May 2012   #5
gregrocker

 

You should have one year tech support with your warranty so I'd check with Samsung to see if this is a known issue.

I'd also research any newer BIOS update to see what it is for exactly (SSD load?). You needn't be afraid of updating to latest BIOS from an OS as I've never even heard of it failing.

Have you reset BIOS to defaults earlier? Clear CMOS - 3 Ways to Clear the CMOS - Reset BIOS
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07 May 2012   #6
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
You should have one year tech support with your warranty so I'd check with Samsung to see if this is a known issue.

I'd also research any newer BIOS update to see what it is for exactly (SSD load?). You needn't be afraid of updating to latest BIOS from an OS as I've never even heard of it failing.

Have you reset BIOS to defaults earlier? Clear CMOS - 3 Ways to Clear the CMOS - Reset BIOS
Actually Greg this problem is happening with whatever drive I happen to use SSD or HDD.
It started when I first installed the Crucial M4 and chaning to the Samsung was just clutching at straws looking for a reason for this load problem.

The problem seems to me to be that there is some choke point in the sytem that slows the flow of data from the different components of the system on boot up and the OS being totally functinal.

It is almost as if the data can only trickle from the drive through the other board components to have the total OS up and running. Once in full swing the machine goes from app to app and accesses other data it needs for whatever one is doing at a very high speed.

Now given my limited knowledge of what goes on at boot I would hazard a guess at something is wrong with the north and south bridges as a memtest on the RAM came up with no errors, and that data is strangled at those points in the system.

I am going to try the original M4 in my laptop today which itself has an M4 in it and although the RAM is slightly slower the machine does operate at a 50% increase in speed to what it used to using an ordinary HDD - although the original drive did have a lot of Toshiba bloat on it to be fair to the manufacturer, and I use Shawns optimise 7 tutorial features on it.

The only other possibilty is a virus or some other malware I suppose that has not been picked up by the scans I have done.

But I will try your BIOS suggestions even if the drive does or does not function as it should in the laptop as because at the moment there is absolutely nothing to lose.
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07 May 2012   #7
gregrocker

 

Here are additional steps to Clean Up Factory Bloatware. I would establish a Clean Boot to shrug off any freeloaders that might be creating issues.

Best of all of course in dealing with bloatware is to Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

Have you had the hardware gone over with a fine tooth comb? Our Dave76 can help you work through that. Other clues may surface using these Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7
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07 May 2012   #8
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Here are additional steps to Clean Up Factory Bloatware. I would establish a Clean Boot to shrug off any freeloaders that might be creating issues.

Best of all of course in dealing with bloatware is to Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

Have you had the hardware gone over with a fine tooth comb? Our Dave76 can help you work through that. Other clues may surface using these Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7
Yeah Greg the machine is my own build and the OEM I used didnot have he SP1 on it which makes each reinstall that much harder.

Now I have dome most of the trouble shooting except for SFC and the etchnet team. The event viwer I have seen but I really don't know what I am looking at without Goolging every error and there are plenty.
I have checked evry single drivee for every device all up to date and the Samsung I have used it's own software for optimising and did abenchmark too although it syas no more than oe a day fo some read / write wrecking outcome.

I'll get onto Dave if the SFC and setting the BIOS to default doesn't work too and se if he can come up with anything.
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07 May 2012   #9
gregrocker

 

The latest official installer ISO with SP1 along with tool to burn to DVD or write to flash is in Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

I look for repeat errors at every boot or shutdown in Admin log, google them along with their identifiers to find out how others have solved them. There are other tips and tools to try in the Troubleshooting steps.
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07 May 2012   #10
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
The latest official installer ISO with SP1 along with tool to burn to DVD or write to flash is in Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

I look for repeat errors at every boot or shutdown in Admin log, google them along with their identifiers to find out how others have solved them. There are other tips and tools to try in the Troubleshooting steps.
Ok Greg and by the by I found this through a Google Loading Operating System... Delay - New-System-Build - Homebuilt-Systems at the bottom post it sounds sort of what maybe the answer. Now I don't have he Marvel ports this fellow is referring to but I might have a dig around in the BIOS again.

By the way that M4 fired up no problems in the laptop and took a little longer to UAC but it has more on it than the laptops own M4.
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