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Windows 7: Validation of OEM Win7/64 installed on new hard drive--have OLD one

10 May 2012   #1
Rickenbacker108

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 
Validation of OEM Win7/64 installed on new hard drive--have OLD one

I have a custom AMD-powered system that is about 18 months old (since OEM Win7 was installed on a new drive). The core WDC 2500KS HD slowed down and showed other errors which made the system unusable about 60 days ago. Best I can remember I never entered a product key when Win7 was originally installed and but the copy/system was validated according to MSFT (I could be wrong). I've kept up with updates and have SR-1 installed. Due to the problems with the system (30+ days ago), I purchased a larger WDC drive and reinstalled my OEM copy of Win7 onto it. Although I was again able to do this w/out a product key (don't have one with the OEM copy?), MSFT is now complaining that the system is NOT GENUINE and step one requires a product key (never provided to me?).

Today I used the Magic Jellybean program to obtain the Product & CD keys--validity currently unknown.

I also have the original hard drive running and accessible via USB? (also backed up separately).

What should I do in what order?

1. Can I /should I officially uninstall my copy of Win7 on the "remote/original drive" ?
SLMGR.vbs refers to remote "systems" not drives--AFAIK.
2. Is #1 possible?? and is it necessary or advised?
3. Should I simply proceed with validation and deal with the potential conflict(s) later?
4. Is MSFT still willing to speak with people on the phone about these things on their nickel?

I am aware of the excellent documentation available (referenced from this site) on SLMGR.vbs. I am also overwhelmed with the options it offers and their sheer complexity. I am an old computer programmer who is quite handy, but I rarely deal with MSFT licensing issues and much of the terminology in the help for SLMGR.vbs is foriegn to me.

I would be very grateful for feedback on my problem. I would like to get this system officially validated without spending money on purchasing another copy of Win 7 (which I view as unnessary).

Thanks in Advance


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10 May 2012   #2
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

I don't see any reason to uninstall from the old drive unless you think you can extract your Product Key from it with Jelly Bean. Does it have a different Windows installation than the new drive?

You may as well call Microsoft on their toll free number and find out if your Product Key is valid.
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10 May 2012   #3
Rickenbacker108

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Thanks ignatzatsonic,

The new install is from the same CD as the old install. I understand MSFT would only want this to be installed on one machine, but what defines a "machine". Logically this would center on the hard drive (the only thing that has changed in my system).
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10 May 2012   #4
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

"OEM" typically means "motherboard".

The hard drive doesn't matter in the least.

Whatever Product Key that may have been used on the old install is valid on the new install.

What matters is:

1: Do you have it?

2: Why won't it activate properly?

You can answer #1; Microsoft may be able to shed light on #2.

Technically, MS restricts OEM licenses to PCs intended for resale, but they apparently are not rigorous about enforcing that.
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10 May 2012   #5
Rickenbacker108

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Thanks for the encouragement.

At this point I can only hope that the key data obtained from the Magic Jellybean program is valid--but I never entered this data on THIS INSTALLATION??

I guess I lack guts. I'll charge ahead.

Thanks!
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10 May 2012   #6
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Rickenbacker108 View Post
Thanks for the encouragement.

At this point I can only hope that the key data obtained from the Magic Jellybean program is valid--but I never entered this data on THIS INSTALLATION??

I guess I lack guts. I'll charge ahead.

Thanks!
Why haven't you at least attempted to use the Product Key you fished out with Jelly Bean on this installation?

Is this a home built PC? If not, the OEM builders (HP, Dell, etc) are required to include the Product Key on the PC. It's normally on a sticker on the bottom of the PC or perhaps in a battery compartment.

It's 25 characters, in this format:

xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx
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10 May 2012   #7
F5ing

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Never used Magic Jellybean. By the statement you made here:

Quote:
Today I used the Magic Jellybean program to obtain the Product & CD keys--validity currently unknown.
are you saying you used it get the keys off of the old hard drive, or is MJ not capable of doing it?

I know of a couple of programs that can be used to get keys off of "non-system" drives (they are system drives, just not for the currently running system).

If that's what you're looking for I'll see if I can find some links.
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10 May 2012   #8
seavixen32

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit
 
 

Try Belarc Advisor: Belarc Advisor - Free Personal PC Audit

It takes a snapshot of your inventory including product keys.

Have you checked the outside of the computer to see if there is a COA sticker with a product key attached to it?
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10 May 2012   #9
F5ing

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 View Post
Try Belarc Advisor: Belarc Advisor - Free Personal PC Audit

It takes a snapshot of your inventory including product keys.

Have you checked the outside of the computer to see if there is a COA sticker with a product key attached to it?
It's worth a try. But I'm not sure you can get Belarc to get the keys off a system drive that's not the current system.

I've got an old install on a currently connected bare external HD, and I had just run Belarc early this morning. It doesn't show anything about the OS or software, just the standard hardware stuff. Do you know of a way to get Belarc to show it?

By the way, have you noticed that Belarc still hasn't been updated to reflect the latest Patch Tuesday updates?
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10 May 2012   #10
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 
 

Where did you get Win7?

Is this Builder's OEM you installed? If so and you carelessly lost the $100+ Product Key then it should be findable on the old HD using Belarc or similar. Just swap it in place of the current HD.

Or is this factory OEM which came preinstalled? If so it must have a COA sticker which has the Product Key on machine as shown below. Just make sure you put the correct key in.


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