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Windows 7: removing VISTA (c:\) with win7 (J:\) - how???

08 Sep 2009   #11

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thanks again everyone for the advice!!
i seem to have painted myself into a corner this time at it seems a tough problem to easily solve

since the Windows 7 release is not that far away, i'll wait until i get the retail version and then just install that onto my c:\ drive and that should sort out all problems.....right?

i was hoping to avoid a reinstall but would have had to do it in 2010 anyway so i guess sooner is better than later


ps, for the time being, i've gone back into VISTA and uninstalled EVERYTHING i could to get HDD space back.

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08 Sep 2009   #12

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Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi NH,

BCDBOOT.exe :

The command is bcdboot c:\windows /l en-us /s F:

There is no \system32 in the bcdboot command.

C:\Windows is the source, and /s F: specifies the target.


7 BOOTSECT.exe:

To be able to run bootsect.exe, you need to get it on your machine. copy it off the dvd (it's in the Boot folder) and into F:\Windows\System 32. Then run the bootsect command.

bootsect /nt60 F: /mbr


[Neither bootsect.exe or bcdboot.exe need to be in system 32 - you can run them from just about anywhere - it is easier to put them in system32 as that is where the cmd prompt opens to.]


Keep us posted as to how it goes.

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Thanks, Chuckr,

I forgot to attach it to the post - done it now.
Substituting the letter H: for J: here I ended up seeing a different message on the screen for the 3rd 64bit RC still linked to the first host install's bcd there. Now to see if that drive is now bootable on it's own!
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08 Sep 2009   #13

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi Liquid,

It is actually quite straightforward.

Boot into 7, Unzip the attached and put bootsect.exe into J:\ Windows\system32

http://www.sevenforums.com/attachmen...w-bootsect.zip

Open an elevated cmd prompt and type:

bcdboot c:\windows /s J:

Then press Enter.

Next, type :

bootsect /nt60 J: /mbr

Then press enter.


That is it really.

Check in Disk Management the 7 partition is marked Active ( rt click it and select Mark as active).

Lastly, make sure 7 is the first Active partition Bios comes across - EITHER change the Boot order in Bios

OR swap the connectors to the motherboard - so the 7 HD is plugged in the socket where Vista is currently.

OR if you have a partition manager, just rt click the Vista partition and select Inactive.

Should take 5 mins. at most


N.B: I made it even easier - dropping the locale parameter /l en-us, it is not necessary.
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08 Sep 2009   #14

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8.1 Preview VM - 7 Pro x64 second remote tower
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Hi NH,

BCDBOOT.exe :

The command is bcdboot c:\windows /l en-us /s F:

There is no \system32 in the bcdboot command.

C:\Windows is the source, and /s F: specifies the target.


7 BOOTSECT.exe:

To be able to run bootsect.exe, you need to get it on your machine. copy it off the dvd (it's in the Boot folder) and into F:\Windows\System 32. Then run the bootsect command.

bootsect /nt60 F: /mbr


[Neither bootsect.exe or bcdboot.exe need to be in system 32 - you can run them from just about anywhere - it is easier to put them in system32 as that is where the cmd prompt opens to.]


Keep us posted as to how it goes.

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Thanks, Chuckr,

I forgot to attach it to the post - done it now.
Substituting the letter H: for J: here I ended up seeing a different message on the screen for the 3rd 64bit RC still linked to the first host install's bcd there. Now to see if that drive is now bootable on it's own!
That was a typo there! Later I ran into the "missing bootmgr" error but still simply need now to rebuild the BCD store.

When trying to mock the host 7 stand alone installation I copied the boot folder over once I had the bootmgr problem taken care of that came up with the "boot\bcd" error.
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08 Sep 2009   #15

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Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

bcdedit /export F:\Boot\bcd

That will export a copy of the bcd hive currently on the System partition into the F:\Boot folder.



LOL to the typo - easily done.

The bcboot command would have copied all those boot files across to F: for you. Saves doing it by hand.
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08 Sep 2009   #16

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8.1 Preview VM - 7 Pro x64 second remote tower
 
 

Which 7 installation should I be booted in? The first host install where the original bcd is found or the present default 7 on the actually 3rd sata drive.

The first host sata being the #1 sata until that gets removed also sees a boot entry there for the present default 7 as well as for the previous Vista and 32bit RC installations on the 3rd OS drive. The BCD store on the first sees 3 entries while the present was a stand alone which would seem to be the better of the two stores for this.

The present host sees the test 7 as H not F as seen with the original triple boot. Then I end up seeing "not a recgnised batch file command"? when simply going to type bcdedit at the elevated command prompt there.


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08 Sep 2009   #17

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Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

It will copy the bcd from the current System partition - so you will have all the same bcd entries on F:

So, assuming you want to copy bcd from System partition C: to F:
you can be booted into any o/s that sees C: as system.
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08 Sep 2009   #18

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8.1 Preview VM - 7 Pro x64 second remote tower
 
 

I think you just missed the update on what comes when entering the bcdedit command. The copy of 7 set as default sees itself as C since it was a stand alone from the start. I can still boot into it however since the first drive still has the entries from the previous installations.
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08 Sep 2009   #19

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

I can't follow your complex drive arrangement from the descriptions - but you should be able do bcdedit /export F:\Boot\bcd when booted into the first 7 host where the original bcd is found.
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08 Sep 2009   #20

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8.1 Preview VM - 7 Pro x64 second remote tower
 
 

Perhaps you need a grand tour! The bcd information along with a few screens here should give you a better idea. Note that the WD sata 1 being the first host for the triple is presenly in a close situation to the Vista drive we've been talking about since that will be removed or used as another temp storage device when the cables are swapped around. Sata #2 storage, sata #3 present host/boot, sata #4 destination for bcd store, sata #5 second storage.

Here's the bcd information with Xs substituting for the numbers on things for general reference.

PRESENT BCD STORE ON FIRST HOST:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7100]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Windows\System32>bcdedit /export f:\boot\bcd
The store export operation has failed.
The system cannot find the path specified.
C:\Windows\System32>bcdedit
Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
displayorder {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
{current}
{xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 5
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
device partition=F:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7 RC64 3rd TEST - Sata 4
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
recoveryenabled Yes
osdevice partition=F:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
nx OptIn
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7 RC64 Host - Sata 1
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
recoveryenabled Yes
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
nx OptIn
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
device partition=E:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7 RC64 - 2ND HOST Sata 3
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
recoveryenabled Yes
osdevice partition=E:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
nx OptIn
C:\Windows\System32>


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