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Windows 7: How to Install Windows 7 Over Windows 8 | Dual Boot

25 Aug 2012   #21
boyans

Win 8 RP, Win 7, XP
 
 

Quote:
Also, if you set the bootmenupolicy to Standard on the Windows 7 bootloader,
Boot should fail (if set) as loader parameters are handed over to ntoskrnl.exe.
Win 7 kernel does NOT know about bootmenupolicy as this was introduced later for Win8.


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25 Aug 2012   #22
Saltgrass

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by boyans View Post
Quote:
Also, if you set the bootmenupolicy to Standard on the Windows 7 bootloader,
Boot should fail (if set) as loader parameters are handed over to ntoskrnl.exe.
Win 7 kernel does NOT know about bootmenupolicy as this was introduced later for Win8.
So using the Windows 8 boot manager (bootmgr), would not make a difference?
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25 Aug 2012   #23
boyans

Win 8 RP, Win 7, XP
 
 

Give it a try and you would know (try W7 loader, bootmenupolicy=0 and bootmenupolicy=1).
It has no meaning having W7 bootmgr on active if W8 is installed as W7 bootmgr cannot load W8.
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25 Aug 2012   #24
Saltgrass

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by boyans View Post
Give it a try and you would know (try W7 loader, bootmenupolicy=0 and bootmenupolicy=1).
It has no meaning having W7 bootmgr on active if W8 is installed as W7 bootmgr cannot load W8.
Did you ever wonder why I made the statement in the first place?

How many bootmgr files do you show on your system? This thread is about a very specific configuration.
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25 Aug 2012   #25
Evil Nemesis

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

What's that HTML code ? in one of your posts on last page Saltgrass, and I have win8 in c drive and win7 in d drive can I use your command safely now ?
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25 Aug 2012   #26
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by boyans View Post
Give it a try and you would know (try W7 loader, bootmenupolicy=0 and bootmenupolicy=1).
It has no meaning having W7 bootmgr on active if W8 is installed as W7 bootmgr cannot load W8.

Hello Boyans.


I'm not trying to be hard to get along with, just curious, with Windows 8 on an Extended partition, you're saying it's still handling the boot in this case?

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.9200]
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C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit
Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier              {bootmgr}
device                  partition=D:
description             Windows Boot Manager
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {globalsettings}
default                 {default}
resumeobject            {6c8678be-ed4c-11e1-8e3f-b4aaa0e8f515}
displayorder            {ntldr}
                        {current}
                        {default}
toolsdisplayorder       {memdiag}
timeout                 30
Windows Legacy OS Loader
------------------------
identifier              {ntldr}
device                  partition=D:
path                    \ntldr
description             Windows XP Pro
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {current}
device                  partition=C:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Windows 8 Pro
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence        {6c8678c0-ed4c-11e1-8e3f-b4aaa0e8f515}
recoveryenabled         Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice                partition=C:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {6c8678be-ed4c-11e1-8e3f-b4aaa0e8f515}
nx                      OptIn
bootmenupolicy          Standard
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {default}
device                  partition=D:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Windows 7 Ultimate
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence        {6c8678ba-ed4c-11e1-8e3f-b4aaa0e8f515}
recoveryenabled         Yes
osdevice                partition=D:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {6c8678b8-ed4c-11e1-8e3f-b4aaa0e8f515}
nx                      OptIn
C:\Windows\system32>


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25 Aug 2012   #27
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Win8 can display a text menu, or what you are calling the GUI menu.

Text menu is not "old". It is the best for multibooting - that is why it is there.

The GUI has big squares - for touch screens .

If you are multibooting, text menu is vastly better. If you only have a touchscreen - GUI is much easier to operate.

The drawback to the gui is that if you select anything apart from win8 - your machine will reboot.
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25 Aug 2012   #28
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

@Ted,

Quote:
with Windows 8 on an Extended partition, you're saying it's still handling the boot in this case?
Yes, you are using win8 bootmgr.
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25 Aug 2012   #29
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
@Ted,

Quote:
with Windows 8 on an Extended partition, you're saying it's still handling the boot in this case?
Yes, you are using win8 bootmgr.

Thanks Simon!
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25 Aug 2012   #30
Saltgrass

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Evil Nemesis View Post
What's that HTML code ? in one of your posts on last page Saltgrass, and I have win8 in c drive and win7 in d drive can I use your command safely now ?
Yes, it is safe... and run it from within Windows 8 so it will use that BCD store.

It seems others cannot duplicate your situation. I seem to have no trouble duplicating it. Since you have confirmed the other suggestions, such as set Win 8 as default and have bootmenupolicy set as Standard, and it has not fixed your system, the Bcdboot command will work And I even get to keep the F8 options, but only from the text boot menu.

If you have doubts, use the bcdedit /export C:\TangoBCD.bcd so you will have the old version you can go back to if you were to feel the need.
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