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Windows 7: Clean install vs. cloning

26 Aug 2012   #1
UnknownReverent

MS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
 
 
Clean install vs. cloning

I just ordered a SSD and I was wondering if cloning will reduce performance compared to a clean install. I was leaning towards the clean install anyways, but it's going to be a pain to get everything back. I have quite a few games, but they're going to be on my HDD anyways. I was just curious if there's really any difference in speed and performance if you clone instead of clean install. This is my very first SSD as well.

Also, for clean install all I have to do is make sure it's AHCI and install the OS correct? It will automatically turn on TRIM and turn off defrag for that drive in Windows 7, I'm assuming.


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26 Aug 2012   #2
Evil Nemesis

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

if you're on same hardware configuration then I think cloning won't hurt
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26 Aug 2012   #3
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

This would require some further investigation. If you have to move the games to the HDD, then those games have to be reinstalled anyhow.

In general terms, a clean install is always preferable. But if you want to move your OS (less games), have a look at this: SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System
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26 Aug 2012   #4
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UnknownReverent View Post
I was wondering if cloning will reduce performance compared to a clean install.....................


Also, for clean install all I have to do is make sure it's AHCI and install the OS correct? It will automatically turn on TRIM and turn off defrag for that drive in Windows 7, I'm assuming.
The possible problem with cloning isn't reduced performance. Not sure I ever heard of such a case.

The possible problem is that the clone doesn't go well in some other sense, such as not booting. You may be able to troubleshoot or do it over or otherwise recover from the problem, but that takes time and is frustrating.

You have to weigh the possibility of extra time and frustration against the known quantity of a clean install. If cloning has a 5% chance of annoying you, maybe you take the chance because it would save you some config time if successful. If it has a 40% chance of annoying you, maybe you don't. Similar to imaging in that sense---who would use images if the failure rate was 40%?

You can check after the fact that TRIM and other settings are up to snuff. The main thing is to disconnect other hard drives before you begin.
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26 Aug 2012   #5
Anthony

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

MS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UnknownReverent View Post
Also, for clean install all I have to do is make sure it's AHCI and install the OS correct? It will automatically turn on TRIM and turn off defrag for that drive in Windows 7, I'm assuming.
Do a Clean Install less problematic, Correct AHCI needs to be set. Trim should be enabled as default but worth check after install, If I remember correctly I had to disable the Defrag, but again its worth checking after the clean install.
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26 Aug 2012   #6
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Anthony,
Win 7 correctly handles trim. No action required.
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26 Aug 2012   #7
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

UnknownReverent,

A clean install will generally not be needed, however, I recommend a clean install.

Other solutions are not always solutions and require more knowledge and experience than we normally encounter here.

I have done both.
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26 Aug 2012   #8
gregrocker

 

Since you have a Seagate HD in the mix you can use Seagate's excellent free premium Acronis' cloning/imaging app from SeaTools Seagate.

The Manual is on the downloads page and easy to understand. Resize the source partition to be the same or smaller than target SSD. Let it handle everything else Automatically.

After cloning, unplug the source HD, set SSD first HD to boot in BIOS setup. If it doesn't start confirm WIn7 or it's 100mb System Rserved partition (preferred if you have it) are Marked Active, then run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times.

You can then plug back in the HD. You'll want to keep your Programs on SSD while your data can be copied to HD after sorting it into User folders, right click each to add to the related Win7 Library - Include a Folder - Windows 7 Forums.

If performance isn't perfect then you can try the Clean Reinstall following the same steps as in the blue link to get a perfect reinstall. Unplug the other HD's.
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26 Aug 2012   #9
LittleJay

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1
 
 

I have used the Paragon Migrate OS to SSD program many times. It is very user friendly and I have never had a problem afterward.
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26 Aug 2012   #10
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LittleJay View Post
I have used the Paragon Migrate OS to SSD program many times. It is very user friendly and I have never had a problem afterward.
Same here.
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