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17 Nov 2012
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#21 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Whatever you decide keep a current image of Windows 7 so you have a path back. You can always move your Win8 Upgrade to another PC to restore Windows 7.
You can also run an in-place Upgrade of Windows 7 keeping all files and programs in place while changing out the OS.
But even in a Clean Install you can always reinstall your paid software using the Product Key and installer. If you've lost these you can audit all of the installed software and hardware including Keys using Belarc Advisor. | My System Specs |
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18 Nov 2012
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#22 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |

Quote: Originally Posted by seven2 I did find that I could go to Dell after upgrading and install the one I lost then update the drivers, at least that is advice from Shane at Tweaking.
However, it has been a learning experience just trying to decide what to do.
Contrary to my compulsive nature, I am glad I did not pull the trigger and will stick with seven.
I can't complain as it does everything I need but I sure would have likes to have played with 8.
I think I shouldd not install new over old but, when necessary, buy new and take what comes with it.
Thank you again and c u soon, as the kids say. If you are working with a one drive only system or have a second drive designated for storage and backup purposes the best move would be maintaining a full system image backup either with the built in option found in the CP>Backup & Restore section or using a 3rd party program like the free version of Acronis Disk Director suit Western Digital provides. Seagate's Disk Wizard is the same but rebranded.
With the present build here I planned it to have two not just one OS drive with the second mainly for testing and trying out other OSs as well as what comes next in the Windows world!  Two other drives plus one in an external enclosure serve as storage drives. The second OS drive is presently split up for OS and the remainder for system images.
Here 7 is actually doing more here then could be done with the retail 8. I still have to decide on whether or not 8 or the next to come will have a place on the second OS drive however while 8 was a disappointment after going with 7!
At the same time some others seem to like 8 over 7 while some prefer Vista over 7 as is usually the case. I just heard from someone who was seeing shutdown problems where the power button had to be used after just buying the retail 8 Pro. To me the new version still sounds a bit buggy for the time being. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
18 Nov 2012
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#23 | | Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Whatever you decide keep a current image of Windows 7 so you have a path back. You can always move your Win8 Upgrade to another PC to restore Windows 7.
You can also run an in-place Upgrade of Windows 7 keeping all files and programs in place while changing out the OS.
But even in a Clean Install you can always reinstall your paid software using the Product Key and installer. If you've lost these you can audit all of the installed software and hardware including Keys using Belarc Advisor.
>>Can I use the Acronis rescue disc to get back to Win 7 if I don't want 8 or if I have trouble?
Regarding Belarc, are you saying it is proof to MS that I paid for Win 8 and used the installer? Should I "take a picture" with it at some point?
It seems as tthough I can recover 7 or 8 depending on the one I like -yes?
This is sticky stuff for an average user?
Thank you | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OS Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit CPU Intel R i5 3.3Ghz Motherboard Dell 2.6 Memory 6 GB Graphics Card Nvidea GT 420 Sound Card Nvidea Hi Def Monitor(s) Displays Dell pnp PSU Dell xps 8300 Case Dell Balck Cooling unknown Hard Drives Seagate 931 GB |
18 Nov 2012
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#24 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Yes, you'd boot the Acronis disk to reimage Windows 7 to the HD if you decide you don't want to keep WIn8 upgrade. THis should free up Win8 Upgrade to be used elsewhere.
You'd run Belarc so you have on hand any Product Keys which are missing if you need to do a Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 which steps are same for retail.
MS wouldn't be interested in any of that, only that you have an activated Windows 7 being upgraded with a legit Win8 Product Key.
You own a license for Windows 7 to use for the life of the OS (or the life of the machine if it came preinstalled) or until it is used to Upgrade to WIn8. After that you've lost the right to use the Windows 7 key unless you decide you want to use the Win8 upgrade elsewhere in which case you can reimage or reinstall Windows 7 with its Product Key.
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19 Nov 2012
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#25 | | Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit |
naivite I'm sorry, if I try to upgrade to Win 8 and it is not good, use the Acronis rescue disc to regain Win 7 system as it is now, is there an issue I am not grasping.
I ask because you mentioned losing my 7 license.
It came preinstalled in my pc but I don't know the license number. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OS Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit CPU Intel R i5 3.3Ghz Motherboard Dell 2.6 Memory 6 GB Graphics Card Nvidea GT 420 Sound Card Nvidea Hi Def Monitor(s) Displays Dell pnp PSU Dell xps 8300 Case Dell Balck Cooling unknown Hard Drives Seagate 931 GB |
19 Nov 2012
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#26 | | 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 & Windows 8 Enterprise Texas |
Peter,
Your product key number should be on the COA sticker like bellow on your PC. 
You don't lose your Windows 7 license (product key). Instead you are just not allowed by the EULA to use it when you have the Windows 8 upgrade installed. If you uninstall Windows 8, then you can reinstall your Windows 7 if you like.
Your Acronis image backup would work to restore Windows 7, but if you haven't already, then you should create a set of factory recovery discs from your Windows 7 first to also be able to restore Windows 7 back to factory conditions. If this is a Dell, then the link below can help show you how to. Creating Your System Recovery Discs with Dell DataSafe Local Backup 2.0 | Dell
and Windows 7 PC Restore | Dell Hope this helps, 
Shawn | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self built custom OS 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 & Windows 8 Enterprise CPU Intel i7-3930K 3.2 Ghz (O/C 4 Ghz) Motherboard ASRock X79 Extreme11 Memory 32 GB (8GBx4) G.SKILL DDR3 Quad PC3-19200 2400MHz Graphics Card Sapphire HD5870 Eyefinity 6 2GB Sound Card SB Recon 3Di Integrated Chip Monitor(s) Displays 3x 27" Asus VE278Q Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500 Revolution Mouse Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500 Revolution PSU OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Corsair Hydro H100 Hard Drives 256GB OCZ Vector
160GB OCZ RevoDrive X2
2 x 1TB Samsung HDD HD154UI SATA Internet Speed 50 Mb/s Download and 2 Mb/s Upload Other Info Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
Lite-On iHBS212 12x BD Writer
Samsung CLX-3175FW Printer
Netgear WNDR3800 Router
Motorola SBG6580 Cable Modem
2x APC Back-UPS XS 1500 |
19 Nov 2012
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#27 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 New Jersey |
Seven2, what do you mean by " Not Good " ?
Have you used or seen W8 yet ? A lot of people do not like it. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built by Me ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i5 3570k @ 4.0 GHz Motherboard MSI Z77A-G45 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600 MHz 10-10-10-27 Graphics Card MSI GTX660 Twin Frozr3 OC Sound Card Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays Dell 19" HP 23" Sony Bravia 40" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Fellowes KWD 855 Mouse Microsoft Wireless PSU Corsair HX750 80+Gold Case Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Gun Metal Black Cooling Cooler Master Hyper N520, Arctic Alumina Thermal Compound Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 4 119GB SSD,
WD Black 500, Blue 500, Caviar SE 320 x 2 Internet Speed Download 25.81 Mbps Upload 5.07 Mbps Antivirus MSE MBAM Browser Chromium Other Info Boston BA745 2.1 Speaker System, Lightscribe Dual Layer DVD Burner |
19 Nov 2012
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#28 | | Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit |
Windows Great news and thank you. I understand about the use of one os at a time. My Acroonis has been a life saver and is up to date. I did make the dvds when I received the Dell 2 years ago.
Thak you again for the support.
May I ask, for those who obtain Win 8, do they also make dvds like Win 7?
I know you already have an os disc if you download the iso but I meant otherwise as in retail.
Peter | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OS Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit CPU Intel R i5 3.3Ghz Motherboard Dell 2.6 Memory 6 GB Graphics Card Nvidea GT 420 Sound Card Nvidea Hi Def Monitor(s) Displays Dell pnp PSU Dell xps 8300 Case Dell Balck Cooling unknown Hard Drives Seagate 931 GB |
20 Nov 2012
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#29 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
With Windows 8 you now only see the upgrade media or OEM for System Builders disk. MS isn't seeing any full version two dvd sets sold out in retail stores. So far there have been only two versions found as well as being the Home or whatever unnamed 8 and Pro no Pro PLUS! deals found anywhere except for online sources.
One blog from April sums up how MS decided to limit the number of editions 8 would be seeing. Microsoft outs Windows 8 editions; Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro, plus Windows RT for ARM - Connected Digital World | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
20 Nov 2012
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#30 | | 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 & Windows 8 Enterprise Texas |

Quote: Originally Posted by seven2 Great news and thank you. I understand about the use of one os at a time. My Acroonis has been a life saver and is up to date. I did make the dvds when I received the Dell 2 years ago.
Thak you again for the support.
May I ask, for those who obtain Win 8, do they also make dvds like Win 7?
I know you already have an os disc if you download the iso but I meant otherwise as in retail.
Peter Glad we could help Peter.
I usually keep it as an ISO file, then create a bootable USB flash drive as needed to do a clean install with. I do this because I also use the ISO file to install on virtual machines. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self built custom OS 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 & Windows 8 Enterprise CPU Intel i7-3930K 3.2 Ghz (O/C 4 Ghz) Motherboard ASRock X79 Extreme11 Memory 32 GB (8GBx4) G.SKILL DDR3 Quad PC3-19200 2400MHz Graphics Card Sapphire HD5870 Eyefinity 6 2GB Sound Card SB Recon 3Di Integrated Chip Monitor(s) Displays 3x 27" Asus VE278Q Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500 Revolution Mouse Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500 Revolution PSU OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Corsair Hydro H100 Hard Drives 256GB OCZ Vector
160GB OCZ RevoDrive X2
2 x 1TB Samsung HDD HD154UI SATA Internet Speed 50 Mb/s Download and 2 Mb/s Upload Other Info Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
Lite-On iHBS212 12x BD Writer
Samsung CLX-3175FW Printer
Netgear WNDR3800 Router
Motorola SBG6580 Cable Modem
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