| Windows 7: A special DualBoot - how? |
18 Nov 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 retail 107 posts |
A special DualBoot - how? Greetings.
I have now a Windows 7 install in one SSD in MBR-mode
I have also a Windows 8 install on another SSD in GPT mode.
As now I choose which system to buut by BIOS, but I would like to have a boot menu, so I don't have to use BIOS to select.
Is it possible to greate a dualboot menu after BOTH installations is done? If so, how do I do it? Which will be the "main boot SSD", the MBR or the GPT moded SSD?
I know it is a bit backward work that has to be done, but I'm so dissapointed about Windows 8, that I don't want to loose my Windows 7. | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number homebrewed OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 retail CPU Core i5 3570K @ 4,4Ghz Motherboard MSI Z77A GD65 Memory 8Gbyte Corsair C9 Graphics Card Zotac GTX580 Sound Card Auzentech Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard G15 logitech Mouse Logitech Laser MX1000 PSU Zahlmann 850HP Case Corsair Carbide 500R Hard Drives Samsung SSD 830 256Gbyte, OCZ Agility 3 128Gbyte SSD, WD 3Tbyte harddisk Internet Speed 50/50 Antivirus Bitdefender Browser Chrome |
18 Nov 2012
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| | Windows 7 x64 x86 656 posts North Western Indianapolis |
The program I use for this exact thing (I have 3 versions of 7 on the same machine) is EASY BCD EasyBCD - NeoSmart Technologies Free for non commercial use. This is NOT a TOY, be careful with the program as it can mess stuff up. If you install the program it will offer you a choice of booting to operating systems. Check out the FAQ EasyBCD Documentation Home - EasyBCD - NeoSmart Technologies Wiki | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Bluethunder OS Windows 7 x64 x86 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1050T Motherboard ASUS M4A77T/USB3 (AM3) Memory G Skill F3-12800CL9-4GBXL 16gb Graphics Card Gigabyte Silent GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays LG L227WTG Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard IBM Mouse Logitech Laser LED PSU ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT 620W ATX12V SLI Case Rocketfish Full Tower Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus with push pull fans Hard Drives ST31000528AS ATA Device
ST3250410AS ATA Device
ST3160212SCE ATA Device
ST31000528AS ATA Device
ST3320620A ATA Device
ST3320620A ATA Device Internet Speed Never fast enough Antivirus Avast and MSE on certian Virtual Machines Browser Firefox Other Info My other machine (Indianatone)
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/1UK7LitZUqfPUBDlPZSg7Hv
This machine (Bluethunder)
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/HOHBCzQyUsv3j6PVu3Qf2Fj
Chat Machine (Shadow)
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/FWdeKU0m2B3yyyG6RBZAXUD
All three of the machines are fed to three LG L227WTG @ 1680 x 1050 16:10 monitors.
Using Mouse Without Borders (Google it) |
18 Nov 2012
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| | ME/XP/Vista/Win7 10,432 posts uk Hampshire |
Are you using the Windows 8 Upgrade? Windows 8 EULA 
Quote: Originally Posted by Microsoft What about upgrading the software? The software covered by this agreement is an upgrade to your existing operating system software, so the upgrade replaces the original software that you are upgrading. You do not retain any rights to the original software after you have upgraded and you may not continue to use it or transfer it in any way. This agreement governs your rights to use the upgrade software and replaces the agreement for the software from which you upgraded. After you complete your upgrade, additional software will be required to playback or record certain types of media, including DVDs. If yes,
You would have NO original software.
You will need to delete Windows 7 install. | My System Specs | | |
18 Nov 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 retail 107 posts |
Well, it seems like it is not this I can be using, this line is from the FAQ: Does EasyBCD have EFI support?
No, not yet.
And as I wrote, the Windows 8 is GPT (or as they put it) in EFI mode. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number homebrewed OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 retail CPU Core i5 3570K @ 4,4Ghz Motherboard MSI Z77A GD65 Memory 8Gbyte Corsair C9 Graphics Card Zotac GTX580 Sound Card Auzentech Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard G15 logitech Mouse Logitech Laser MX1000 PSU Zahlmann 850HP Case Corsair Carbide 500R Hard Drives Samsung SSD 830 256Gbyte, OCZ Agility 3 128Gbyte SSD, WD 3Tbyte harddisk Internet Speed 50/50 Antivirus Bitdefender Browser Chrome |
18 Nov 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 retail 107 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by theog Are you using the Windows 8 Upgrade? Windows 8 EULA 
Quote: Originally Posted by Microsoft What about upgrading the software? The software covered by this agreement is an upgrade to your existing operating system software, so the upgrade replaces the original software that you are upgrading. You do not retain any rights to the original software after you have upgraded and you may not continue to use it or transfer it in any way. This agreement governs your rights to use the upgrade software and replaces the agreement for the software from which you upgraded. After you complete your upgrade, additional software will be required to playback or record certain types of media, including DVDs. If yes,
You would have NO original software.
You will need to delete Windows 7 install. Yes, it is an Win 8 Pro Upgrade, but I choose to take 2 weeks of "side by side" with my Windows 7 Ultimate, as Windows 8 still has so many troubble, and I will have to find workarounds for them. After that I will of course only be running 1 OS, as I don't want to use the ekstra SSD-space nessesary for using 2 complete OS-installs. As for now I think it will be Windows 7 Ultimate, I choose to keep. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number homebrewed OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 retail CPU Core i5 3570K @ 4,4Ghz Motherboard MSI Z77A GD65 Memory 8Gbyte Corsair C9 Graphics Card Zotac GTX580 Sound Card Auzentech Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard G15 logitech Mouse Logitech Laser MX1000 PSU Zahlmann 850HP Case Corsair Carbide 500R Hard Drives Samsung SSD 830 256Gbyte, OCZ Agility 3 128Gbyte SSD, WD 3Tbyte harddisk Internet Speed 50/50 Antivirus Bitdefender Browser Chrome |
18 Nov 2012
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| | Windows 7 x64 x86 656 posts North Western Indianapolis |

Quote: Originally Posted by Burgurne Well, it seems like it is not this I can be using, this line is from the FAQ: Does EasyBCD have EFI support?
No, not yet.
And as I wrote, the Windows 8 is GPT (or as they put it) in EFI mode. OK well that is all I know I am afraid. This would be my "sign" to forget about 8 at least for a while and use 7. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Bluethunder OS Windows 7 x64 x86 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1050T Motherboard ASUS M4A77T/USB3 (AM3) Memory G Skill F3-12800CL9-4GBXL 16gb Graphics Card Gigabyte Silent GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays LG L227WTG Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard IBM Mouse Logitech Laser LED PSU ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT 620W ATX12V SLI Case Rocketfish Full Tower Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus with push pull fans Hard Drives ST31000528AS ATA Device
ST3250410AS ATA Device
ST3160212SCE ATA Device
ST31000528AS ATA Device
ST3320620A ATA Device
ST3320620A ATA Device Internet Speed Never fast enough Antivirus Avast and MSE on certian Virtual Machines Browser Firefox Other Info My other machine (Indianatone)
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/1UK7LitZUqfPUBDlPZSg7Hv
This machine (Bluethunder)
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/HOHBCzQyUsv3j6PVu3Qf2Fj
Chat Machine (Shadow)
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/FWdeKU0m2B3yyyG6RBZAXUD
All three of the machines are fed to three LG L227WTG @ 1680 x 1050 16:10 monitors.
Using Mouse Without Borders (Google it) |
18 Nov 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 retail 107 posts |
Well, you let me know that such programs are out there, so I will now look for such a program that do support EFI | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number homebrewed OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 retail CPU Core i5 3570K @ 4,4Ghz Motherboard MSI Z77A GD65 Memory 8Gbyte Corsair C9 Graphics Card Zotac GTX580 Sound Card Auzentech Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard G15 logitech Mouse Logitech Laser MX1000 PSU Zahlmann 850HP Case Corsair Carbide 500R Hard Drives Samsung SSD 830 256Gbyte, OCZ Agility 3 128Gbyte SSD, WD 3Tbyte harddisk Internet Speed 50/50 Antivirus Bitdefender Browser Chrome |
18 Nov 2012
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| | Windows 7 x64 x86 656 posts North Western Indianapolis |

Quote: Originally Posted by Burgurne Well, you let me know that such programs are out there, so I will now look for such a program that do support EFI  Good Luck and run it by the forum here, someone may need the help in the future. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Bluethunder OS Windows 7 x64 x86 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1050T Motherboard ASUS M4A77T/USB3 (AM3) Memory G Skill F3-12800CL9-4GBXL 16gb Graphics Card Gigabyte Silent GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays LG L227WTG Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard IBM Mouse Logitech Laser LED PSU ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT 620W ATX12V SLI Case Rocketfish Full Tower Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus with push pull fans Hard Drives ST31000528AS ATA Device
ST3250410AS ATA Device
ST3160212SCE ATA Device
ST31000528AS ATA Device
ST3320620A ATA Device
ST3320620A ATA Device Internet Speed Never fast enough Antivirus Avast and MSE on certian Virtual Machines Browser Firefox Other Info My other machine (Indianatone)
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/1UK7LitZUqfPUBDlPZSg7Hv
This machine (Bluethunder)
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/HOHBCzQyUsv3j6PVu3Qf2Fj
Chat Machine (Shadow)
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/FWdeKU0m2B3yyyG6RBZAXUD
All three of the machines are fed to three LG L227WTG @ 1680 x 1050 16:10 monitors.
Using Mouse Without Borders (Google it) |
18 Nov 2012
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| | Win7 x 6 PC's 36,547 posts California, Florida, Boston |
The problem is that EasyBCD modifies the MBR and a GPT disk has no MBR.
You've actually got the cleanest Dual Boot method now via BIOS, as we've discovered over the years here.
As to having a decent test period for your Win8 before having to surrender your 7 license, I don't think you'll be faulted for wanting to do this. In a Clean Install I believe you should even have some time before it Activates.
If you don't like Metro then you can get the exact same Windows 7 Start menu grafted on using Windows 7 Start Menu for Windows 8 and add replica 7 gadgets using 8GadgetPack - Gadgets for Windows 8.
What you have then is essentially a slightly faster (decide for yourself) Windows 7 since it doesn't load Metro or the 8 crApps. But for only that I will stick with 7. | My System Specs | | |
19 Nov 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 retail 107 posts |
OK, sounds like I should just stay with my BIOS select for now.
My greatest annoying about Windows 8 (except for Metro) is its very slow USB3 performance compared to windows 7.
If that is not solved soon, then it is farewell to windows 8 for me. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number homebrewed OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 retail CPU Core i5 3570K @ 4,4Ghz Motherboard MSI Z77A GD65 Memory 8Gbyte Corsair C9 Graphics Card Zotac GTX580 Sound Card Auzentech Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard G15 logitech Mouse Logitech Laser MX1000 PSU Zahlmann 850HP Case Corsair Carbide 500R Hard Drives Samsung SSD 830 256Gbyte, OCZ Agility 3 128Gbyte SSD, WD 3Tbyte harddisk Internet Speed 50/50 Antivirus Bitdefender Browser Chrome A special DualBoot - how? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:37 AM. | |