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Windows 7: Need help - cloning action has split boot and sys acrsoos 2 disks


22 Nov 2012   #1

DELL Win 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 
Need help - cloning action has split boot and sys across 2 disks

Using Win 7 64 bit Home Premium.

This should NOT have happened - but it did!!

I started off with a perfectly fine MAIN disk, then cloned a new disk for use as a BACKUP (using EaseUs 4.0 and the boot-first-with-Cd method).

All appeared to be fine, but now I see the boot and system files are no longer on my original boot disk, BUT ARE NOW SPLIT ACROSS THE TWO DISKS !!! This is a nighmware as:
-it defeats the whole purpose of having independant MAIN and BACKUP disks
( I am now reliant on both drives all the time)
-it completely slows down perfomance
-it should NOT have happened!!!

How do I fix this???

Is there something I can do (or undo) with Disk Maangement, or, MiniTool PArtition wizard, or EaseUs Partition Magic?

This is a bit a of a disaster- Here I was trying to be more secure by haveing a backup drive...and now this !!



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22 Nov 2012   #2

DELL Win 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Complicating things further is that mini PW shows the MAIN idsk ( the one with C and D paritions) is "system" and the BACKUP disk is "boot" ... the exact opposite of what WIndwos 7 is reporting (per post 1)


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22 Nov 2012   #3

DELL Win 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Update...

I ran the Win 7 system repair disk.. almost there..

I now have sys and boot on the same disk.... and now have WIn 7 and mini PW reporting the same thing.


But I am booting to the backup disk (E/F) intead of to the main disk C/D)


I think the only way to resolve this is two swap open the case, swap the drives and re-label the drive letters.


1) is that correct?

2) what is the lesson learned here ? Is is that its fine to clone a drive, but never ever ever boot your system with both the original and cloned drive in the same system??? Or is it that EaseUs is a bad cloning tool?? Or is it just me??


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22 Nov 2012   #4

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ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

After cloning the Old HD Drive,Physically disconnect it, boot the new HD Drive.done.
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22 Nov 2012   #5

DELL Win 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
After cloning the Old HD Drive,Physically disconnect it, boot the new HD Drive.done.
Not exactly. What you propsoe is fine if all I wanted was tio end up with one drive.

What I want is two drives:
- a bootable main drive (not dependant on the backup)
- a backup drive ( ideally bootable as well so that I can use if the main one fails)
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22 Nov 2012   #6

DELL Win 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

OK all done, Not waht I wanted, but I can take much more of this.

Summary
I started off with two old 500 GB drives ( bootbale main and backup)
I successfully cloned to get to point I where I have two 1 TB drives ( bootabale main and backup)
Main Drive has the sys.boot files (and happened to end up as Disk 0)
Backdrive was simply to stored image and file backups (and happened to end up as Disk 1)

Changes
I should have left good enough alone

But thought I should go one step further and make the Backup drive bootable (in case thw main drive failed, so I cloned from Main to Backup. Big mistake.

From that point on, per post 1, the boot and sys file were spread over the two drives, and performance was dead slow.

I partially corrected (per post 3) but then E/F as the boot drive.

For the laarr few hours I tried to corrected it, but on evert turn I hit roadblock, even when using just one drive at a time and even trying to repair with thw system repair CD or the Win 7 CD. It told me my copy of Win 7 wasn not genuine, or could not find profiles, etc etc.

Current Status
Finally, after a few more combinations, I got to something that works. See below.

Good enough. So I am gonna cut my losses and stop.

Backup drive is still not bootable, and the Drive numbers got reversed , but I am all out of steam, time and patience.

Also I know is to never ever ever to attempt to Clone a drive again for as long as I live ( as it should have only affected the target, but it messed up the soruce).


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22 Nov 2012   #7
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

As far as I can tell they are the same - both are 'active'. Just a little different wording. I don't see a problem.

'active' means that the bootmgr is in that partition. They should both boot.
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22 Nov 2012   #8

DELL Win 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
They should both boot.
They should, but they don't.. If I remove the main drive, and try to boot off the backup,, I get the " not a genuine Win 7 copy " error message in the bottom right corner.

So as I can't resolve it, I!ll leave sleeping dogs lie, and deal with if I ever lose my main drive.

My data is secure, So i will just need to work at that time, at getting windows to boot, upon that future failure. I do have Ease Us image backups, and I do have my original 500GB bootable standby drive, as well as sys backup and Win 7 DVDs, so I have a good tool suite to work with....would have of course been cleaner if the backup drive was bootable, but as its not, so be it.
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22 Nov 2012   #9
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Now that's another problem. You need a key for the second OS.

Why don't you just make images and if anything fails, restore the image.
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22 Nov 2012   #10

DELL Win 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Now that's another problem. You need a key for the second OS.
That would be fine if it prompted me to enter one.

Yup as noted, I also have the images.
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