Clean install onto secondary internal drive?

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    Clean install onto secondary internal drive?


    I have a Core 2 Duo PC with 2 SATA internal drives:

    Seagate 320 gig, with C and D partitions. C contains a legit retail upgrade version of Vista Home. D is for data.

    Western Digital 640 gig, with a single E partition, currently used as backup.

    I ordered a Windows 7 Home Premium retail upgrade at the discounted price a few months ago and expect it in a month.

    My Seagate drive is running low on space and I want to retire it. I would like to boot to the Win 7 DVD, have my Vista install on the Seagate recognized, and then do a clean install of Windows 7 on the Western Digital drive, currently E.

    I hope to buy another considerably larger backup drive shortly to replace the Western Digital as a backup drive.

    Will the WD drive be available as a location for the installation in these circumstances?

    Any previous time I have installed MS operating systems, I always chose to install to the same drive as the existing OS. This time things are different due to little space on the Seagate drive. Windows 7 would certainly fit on my current C, but I want to retire that drive.

    Or will this remain a complete unknown until some time after October 22?

    Or will I be forced to install to the Seagate and then somehow migrate the install to the WD?

    I have not played with the RC, so I don't know what options are normally presented during the install.

    Thanks for any opinions.
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  2. Posts : 28,845
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    if I read your post correctly You can do what you want. IN win 7 you dont have to install it to the partiton with the previous OS, in fact MS recommends you dont upgrade but do a clean install instead.
    that being the case 650 gigs probably should be partitoned for win 7 and data if I understand your partition straegy.
    Are you looking to dual boot, vista and win 7 or looking to get rid of vista and install win 7 by itself?

    ken
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  3. Posts : 12,012
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    Ken:

    Thanks for the reply.

    Do you only mean that I can install to a different partition on the same drive(eg, D in my case)? That doesn't help me.

    Or do you mean I will be shown and have the option to install to a different currently installed drive (my Western Digital, now E, now only a backup drive with no OS on it). That does help and is what I want to do.

    I just don't know if the Win 7 UPGRADE disc will permit a clean install to a drive without an OS, even if it is in a PC with another drive that has Vista.

    Ideally, I would leave my Seagate alone (C and D now) during the install, and choose the WD drive. Then delete the WD's only partition (now E) and do a clean install on the WD, making it the new C.

    Then boot to the new C (Western Digital) and remove the no longer wanted Seagate drive.

    Then shrink C on the WD to make room for a data partition on that drive (the new D)

    Then install my new backup drive, the new E.

    No dual boot. Goodbye entirely to Vista.

    Where might that go wrong?
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  4. Posts : 1,607
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    ignatzatsonic said:
    Or do you mean I will be shown and have the option to install to a different currently installed drive (my Western Digital, now E, now only a backup drive with no OS on it). That does help and is what I want to do.
    Yes

    ignatzatsonic said:
    I just don't know if the Win 7 UPGRADE disc will permit a clean install to a drive without an OS, even if it is in a PC with another drive that has Vista.
    It is not completely sure. In this case indeed Microsoft has no definitive answer and there are conflicting pieces of info about it. We might to wait until the final version is really out. Sorruy for previous misleading answer
    Last edited by wallyinnc; 29 Sep 2009 at 11:58. Reason: Correction of statement. Not completely clear for upgrade version
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  5. Posts : 12,012
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    Wally:

    Thanks for the response.

    I hope you are right. There is so much contradictory information out there with no authoritative word from Microsoft one way or another that I really don't know what to believe and can only hope there are not a lot of surprises on October 22.
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  6. Posts : 28,845
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    ignatz

    Wally has been in this business a long time and is usually correct. I also agree with him.

    hope this helps

    ken
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    ignatzatsonic said:
    Ideally, I would leave my Seagate alone (C and D now) during the install, and choose the WD drive. Then delete the WD's only partition (now E) and do a clean install on the WD, making it the new ZZZ.

    Then boot to the new ZZZ (Western Digital) and remove the no longer wanted Seagate drive.

    Then shrink ZZZ on the WD to make room for a data partition on that drive (the new ZZZ+1)

    Then install my new backup drive, the new ZZZ+2.

    No dual boot. Goodbye entirely to Vista.

    Where might that go wrong ?
    It might go wrong if you install with the Seagate connected, when you boot the DVD.

    He seems to like writing the 'boot' files on the Original C:\ drive, your Seagate.

    If you successfully install, then remove the Seagate (the old C:\),
    he might not find where to go, for the 'boot' files.

    Might, might not.
    Don't know for sure, only got one HDD in my box... JMHO
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    wallyinnc said:
    ignatzatsonic said:
    Or do you mean I will be shown and have the option to install to a different currently installed drive...
    Yes

    ignatzatsonic said:
    I just don't know if the Win 7 UPGRADE disc will permit a clean install to a drive without an OS, even if it is in a PC with another drive that has Vista.
    Yes, it will
    That's good news, haven't been able to find much positive info on this.
    It appeared that the upgrade path was going to be a difficult one. Glad to hear that it's going to be more like everyone was hoping.

    Thanks,
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  9. Posts : 1,607
    Windows 7 x64 finally!
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    Guys, I re-read my post (and questions) and I have to rectify it: I have not actually seen a clear statement whether the upgrade version will allow you to install to a clean disk (I actually was thinking about the full verison. That I am sure, I did that).
    I corrected the post and apologize for the mistake
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    the faq on the digital river site for the student discounted windows 7 for $30, which lets you buy the upgrade version, says you can install on a disk with no OS.

    Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely replace your current operating system, or to install Windows on a specific drive or partition that you select. You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't have an operating system, or if you want to set up a multiboot system on your computer. For more information about setting up a multiboot system, see Install more than one operating system (multiboot).
    Installing and reinstalling Windows
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