| Windows 7: Installing free 7 upgrade to be shipped in October |
28 Sep 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium South Carolina Midlands |
Installing free 7 upgrade to be shipped in October I have a new OEM Vista Home Premium computer that qualifies for a free upgrade to 7. I registered in August and am expecting a CD to arrive in the next month, hopefully.
I know a clean install usually works better than an upgrade, but I don't know if it can be done with the CD they will be shipping. I'm hoping so.
I was just wondering if anyone here knows what to expect from our friends at Microsoft. Is it going to be a full version, or are we going to end up with a patchwork kludge of an OS? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number eMachines ET1810-03 (Acer) OS Windows 7 Home Premium CPU Intel E2210 2.2Ghz Motherboard (OEM) ECS MCP73VT-PM with AMI BIOS R01-A3 (4-29-2009) Memory 3Gb DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7050/610I GPU Sound Card Realtek ALC888/1200 8-channel HD integrated Monitor(s) Displays Acer 19" widescreen Screen Resolution 1440 X 900 Keyboard Wireless Mouse Logitech LX8 laser wireless Hard Drives Internal - Seagate 320Gb SATA; External - Western Digital 320Gb USB (3.5" internal drive inside a RocketFish USB enclosure) Internet Speed cable broadband |
29 Sep 2009
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Nobody really knows because Microsoft likes to keep this information secret until what seems like release day.
At this point most of us assume you will be able to clean install the full version using the upgrade media. Simply because of the fact that Windows 2000 or XP could not be upgraded to 7 by doing an in-place upgrade. Also you cannot upgrade a 32-bit version to 64-bit version (or vice versa) without doing a clean install.
Microsoft has stated that you can do a clean install using the upgrade media. What is not clear is the procedure for doing so.
So far it seems that:
A) a previous version of 2000, XP or Vista must be installed and genuine in order for the upgrade to work (but 2000 cannot be activated, so that's also unclear)
B) you might be required to install Windows 7 on the same partition that the previous OS was installed to (although I think this is unlikely) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
29 Sep 2009
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#3 | | XP_Pro, W7_7201, W7RC.vhd, SciLinux5.3, Fedora12, Fedora9_2x, OpenSolaris_09-06 Denver suburb |

Quote: Originally Posted by RknRusty I have a new OEM Vista Home Premium computer that qualifies for a free upgrade to 7. I registered in August and am expecting a CD to arrive in the next month, hopefully.
I know a clean install usually works better than an upgrade, but I don't know if it can be done with the CD they will be shipping. I'm hoping so.
I was just wondering if anyone here knows what to expect from our friends at Microsoft. Is it going to be a full version, or are we going to end up with a patchwork kludge of an OS? You probably won't be receiving any CD from Microsoft.
Most likely, you'll get a DVD or two.
I would interpret an "upgrade" to be precisely that.
I doubt very much that your DVD(s) would be a "patchwork kludge of an OS",
but instead will be a very sophisticated install process, dependent upon exactly what they ship.
The final result should be a successful install of what will-be one of the world's most popular 'Operating Systems'.
Are you somewhat familiar with "patching software" ? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway GT5056 OS XP_Pro, W7_7201, W7RC.vhd, SciLinux5.3, Fedora12, Fedora9_2x, OpenSolaris_09-06 CPU AMD 64x2 Motherboard Yes Memory 1 gig Graphics Card Dunno Sound Card Realtek something Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 940MW w/TV Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Hard Drives 250 GB WD, USB Seagate Freedesk 1.5 T Internet Speed Cable modem Other Info 1 + 1 = 10b,
7 + 7 = 16o,
a + b = 15h. |
29 Sep 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium South Carolina Midlands |

Quote: Originally Posted by chuckr You probably won't be receiving any CD from Microsoft.
Most likely, you'll get a DVD or two. Okay, DVDs will do just fine (I guess I shouldn't use "CD" like a ubiquitous name for those 5½" optical disks). 
Quote: Originally Posted by chuckr I would interpret an "upgrade" to be precisely that.
I doubt very much that your DVD(s) would be a "patchwork kludge of an OS",
but instead will be a very sophisticated install process, dependent upon exactly what they ship.
The final result should be a successful install of what will-be one of the world's most popular 'Operating Systems'. Sounds wonderful, I can't wait. I didn't mean the shipped software might be a patchwork kludge, I was referring to what has been the result of some Upgrades in the past, where they were buggy and a clean install was a much better option. Windows 3.1 to windows 95, or Windows 98 to XP for example. I have heard mostly good things about 7. 
Quote: Originally Posted by chuckr Are you somewhat familiar with "patching software" ? Only from the user end. I understand that software has to be designed to be patchable, because no matter how many wrenches developers throw into the works, there's no way to find all of the vulnerabilities before they have to release it.
I didn't mean any of my questions as an affront to your sensibilities. Thanks for your reply,
Rusty | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number eMachines ET1810-03 (Acer) OS Windows 7 Home Premium CPU Intel E2210 2.2Ghz Motherboard (OEM) ECS MCP73VT-PM with AMI BIOS R01-A3 (4-29-2009) Memory 3Gb DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7050/610I GPU Sound Card Realtek ALC888/1200 8-channel HD integrated Monitor(s) Displays Acer 19" widescreen Screen Resolution 1440 X 900 Keyboard Wireless Mouse Logitech LX8 laser wireless Hard Drives Internal - Seagate 320Gb SATA; External - Western Digital 320Gb USB (3.5" internal drive inside a RocketFish USB enclosure) Internet Speed cable broadband |
30 Sep 2009
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If it wasn't for the "you can't upgrade from XP" thing I'd guess it would be like Vista. You had to have XP (or Vista) installed prior to installing in order to activate an update vista key.
There was a hack where you could do a clean install of Vista without using a key and then doing a Vista upgrade on top of Vista. This way you could activate and you didn't have to install XP first. Not really sure now though. | My System Specs | | OS win8 pro CPU i7 920@4.2 Motherboard evga x58 ftw3 Memory 12gb corsair vengeance Graphics Card gtx580oc sli Sound Card x-fi titanium fatality Monitor(s) Displays dell u3011 & 2405fpw Keyboard g510 Mouse g9x PSU antec hc-900w Case corsair t600se Cooling corsair h100 Hard Drives x25m & 12tb |
30 Sep 2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3 Gulf Coast Texas |
It will be interesting to find out. Since I have an older genuine XP disk but it would only reconize drives up to I think 300gb? And was doing a clean install on a new 500gb drive. Yet I also had a genuine win XP sp 2 or 3 upgrade disk, but could only use it if I installed windows 98 first. Was a real pain. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3 CPU intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz Motherboard Asus P5ND bios 1401 Memory 8 gigs 1066 OCZ Fata1ty Graphics Card EVGA GTX 580 Call of Duty Black Ops Edition Sound Card Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2zs Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24in LCD's 2MS X2 Screen Resolution 1920x1080p @60Hz Keyboard Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX5000 Mouse Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX1000 PSU OCZ 700W GameXtreme Case NZXT Apollo Cooling Corsair H50 CPU/120mm x3 /60mm x2 /Corsair Dominator Ram Hard Drives WD Caviar 500 Black/ WD Caviar 200 Blue Internet Speed Download 19.83 Upload 0.97 Other Info Logitech Z2300 Speakers/ Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones/Avermedia PCI-e Hybrid TV Bravo/Epson NX415 all in one/ 4 Port Powered USB Hub/ LG 10x Bluray Burner /TSST Corp DVDRW External |
01 Oct 2009
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I would just install a bare-bones copy of Win 2k, XP, or whatever you have to the HDD, and make an image of that before installing 7 over it. That way the next time you need to reinstall Win 7, or if you want to install Win 7 on a new machine, all you'll have to do is restore the image to the HDD in question first before starting the Win 7 install process.
It should be both faster and easier then installing an older OS on the HDD the "normal way", and you'll be able to install Win 7 properly. | My System Specs | | |
01 Oct 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number MasterB/Custom OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU QuadCore AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 955 3.2 GHz Motherboard Asus M4A785TD-V Evo Memory 8 GB Crucial DDR3 Graphics Card SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4890 1GB HDMI New Edition Sound Card VIA VT1708S HD Audio 7.1 onboard/ ATI HDMI video card Monitor(s) Displays Acer H233H 23'' LCD HDMI Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MX 3200 Mouse Logitech MX 3200 PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX 620W Case COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000 Cooling 2x 140mm and 1x 120mm case fans, Stock CPU fan Hard Drives 1x 500GB and 1x 1TB 7200RPM 32MB Cache WD Caviar Black Internet Speed 15 Mbps Other Info My first build! |
01 Oct 2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate The Southern Hinterlands |
He's been banned ... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUSTeK Computer INC. CM5675 OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Core(TM) i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. CM5675 Memory 6.00 GB Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Intel HD integtrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24' Screen Resolution 1900/1020 Hard Drives (1) INTEL SSD SA2M120G2GC ATA Device (2) ST31000528AS ATA Device Internet Speed 30mb |
01 Oct 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium South Carolina Midlands |

Quote: Originally Posted by TheSmJ I would just install a bare-bones copy of Win 2k, XP, or whatever you have to the HDD, and make an image of that before installing 7 over it. That way the next time you need to reinstall Win 7, or if you want to install Win 7 on a new machine, all you'll have to do is restore the image to the HDD in question first before starting the Win 7 install process.
It should be both faster and easier then installing an older OS on the HDD the "normal way", and you'll be able to install Win 7 properly. That sounds like a good idea. I have an old copy of XP Home, which I have no license for, but I guess that doesn't matter... hope so anyway. I'll just wait for the October release of 7 because I figure there might be some minor changes in it between now and then. I do all of my business on this machine so I want it as trouble free as possible.
Learning Vista has been both entertaining and aggravating. I've done all the registry hacks I know of to get access to all of my files without having to always manually set security permissions, but it still tries to shut me out now and then. I hope 7 is more cooperative that way. I had to finally use Ubuntu to get all of my files copied over to my new Vista system. When I first started I was pissed at my own machine acting like I was some kind of pirate.
Thanks for the tips everybody. I'll probably be showing up here more when I do the upgrade.
Rusty | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number eMachines ET1810-03 (Acer) OS Windows 7 Home Premium CPU Intel E2210 2.2Ghz Motherboard (OEM) ECS MCP73VT-PM with AMI BIOS R01-A3 (4-29-2009) Memory 3Gb DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7050/610I GPU Sound Card Realtek ALC888/1200 8-channel HD integrated Monitor(s) Displays Acer 19" widescreen Screen Resolution 1440 X 900 Keyboard Wireless Mouse Logitech LX8 laser wireless Hard Drives Internal - Seagate 320Gb SATA; External - Western Digital 320Gb USB (3.5" internal drive inside a RocketFish USB enclosure) Internet Speed cable broadband Installing free 7 upgrade to be shipped in October problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:40 PM. | |