| Windows 7: Windows 7 and Linux |
31 Dec 2012
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Windows 7 and Linux Hello everyone,
I wanted to install Linux on my second hard drive but I heard that there are problems with Windows MBR - that it won't show Linux on the MBR or that the default OS will be Linux instead of Windows, so I wanted to know if it's true, and if yes, can you add Linux to the Windows MBR and make Windows MBR as the default?
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31 Dec 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 professional X64 |
I think making windows the MBR you would not be able to access GRUB which is Linux' dual boot scenario that allows you to start with either windows or linux.
In short. Linux needs grub to run the dual boot options.
Last edited by Erick Aguilar; 31 Dec 2012 at 04:11 PM..
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31 Dec 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Topeka Kansas |
Windows boot will be added to GRUB when you install Linux. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
31 Dec 2012
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#4 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
If it is your second hard drive, I suggest you unplug the first harddrive (which I assume has Windows 7) whilst installing Linux on the second drive. Then you get a completely independent Linux installation. You then choose the system from which you want to boot with the BIOS boot order.
That is the easiest approach and avoids a lot of headaches - especially the day you want to uninstall or reinstall one of the systems. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
01 Jan 2013
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#5 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by LittleJay If you do install Linux on a separate HDD as whs suggested, you can use EasyBCD to add a boot entry to the Windows bootloader, which will give you a dual boot option at startup. EasyBCD - NeoSmart Technologies I personally would not do that and muck up my bootmgr. Switching between the systems with the BIOS is the cleaner solution - I think. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
01 Jan 2013
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1 The North Star state |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs 
Quote: Originally Posted by LittleJay If you do install Linux on a separate HDD as whs suggested, you can use EasyBCD to add a boot entry to the Windows bootloader, which will give you a dual boot option at startup. EasyBCD - NeoSmart Technologies I personally would not do that and muck up my bootmgr. Switching between the systems with the BIOS is the cleaner solution - I think. I didn't realize that adding an entry for Linux into the Windows bootloader created problems. The time I used EasyBCD to add an entry for Ubuntu, which was installed on another HDD, I was able to later use EasyBCD to remove that same entry with no problem. But I do apologize for being wrong, because I don't want to cause problems for the OP if it isn't as simple as that. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Customized build from CyberPower OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1 CPU Intel i5 2500k Motherboard Asus P8P67 Deluxe Memory 8 gigabytes Corsair PC3-12800 DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 460 superclocked Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 23" LCD Screen Resolution 1980 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft 3 button PSU Coolermaster 1000 watt modular Case Coolermaster HAF X full tower Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus Hard Drives 120 Gb Samsung 840 Pro SSD
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01 Jan 2013
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#7 | | Windows 7 professional X64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs 
Quote: Originally Posted by LittleJay If you do install Linux on a separate HDD as whs suggested, you can use EasyBCD to add a boot entry to the Windows bootloader, which will give you a dual boot option at startup. EasyBCD - NeoSmart Technologies I personally would not do that and muck up my bootmgr. Switching between the systems with the BIOS is the cleaner solution - I think. Linux adds an entry to the bootloader by default. Which is why it is not a good idea to run linux and windows in any sort of dual boot scenario if you plan to remove it in the future.
I recently had to work on a computer that had linux installed on one hard drive, and windows on the other. Formatting the linux drive still gave out a grubb rescue error in spite of it being in an independent drive.
When installing Linux you can make a side by side installation with windows 7, and direct it to another hard drive instead of creating a partition within an existing one. It will still bring up GRUB at startup.
Jays Easy BCD is the simplest way to manage linux and window's bootloader issues, and makes it safe to uninstall linux in the future if you do not want it anymore. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop OS Windows 7 professional X64 CPU AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz. Motherboard Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4 Memory 8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhz Graphics Card XFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Mouse Logitech M504 PSU Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W Case Thermaltake Commander MS-I Cooling Cooler Master N520 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm
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01 Jan 2013
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#8 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by LittleJay 
Quote: Originally Posted by whs 
Quote: Originally Posted by LittleJay If you do install Linux on a separate HDD as whs suggested, you can use EasyBCD to add a boot entry to the Windows bootloader, which will give you a dual boot option at startup. EasyBCD - NeoSmart Technologies I personally would not do that and muck up my bootmgr. Switching between the systems with the BIOS is the cleaner solution - I think. I didn't realize that adding an entry for Linux into the Windows bootloader created problems. The time I used EasyBCD to add an entry for Ubuntu, which was installed on another HDD, I was able to later use EasyBCD to remove that same entry with no problem. But I do apologize for being wrong, because I don't want to cause problems for the OP if it isn't as simple as that. Really no need to apologize. If you know what you are doing, this is a perfectly valid solution. The problem is that you have to be a 2 star geek to manipulate the bootmgr. Even with EasyBCD it is not obvious and many people have bricked their systems with it. So I always recommend the safest method if I don't know the level of experience of the OP. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
01 Jan 2013
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1 The North Star state |
Quote: Really no need to apologize. If you know what you are doing, this is a perfectly valid solution. The problem is that you have to be a 2 star geek to manipulate the bootmgr. Even with EasyBCD it is not obvious and many people have bricked their systems with it. So I always recommend the safest method if I don't know the level of experience of the OP. Thank you for this reminder. I should have thought of that myself, but unfortunately I didn't. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Customized build from CyberPower OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1 CPU Intel i5 2500k Motherboard Asus P8P67 Deluxe Memory 8 gigabytes Corsair PC3-12800 DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 460 superclocked Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 23" LCD Screen Resolution 1980 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft 3 button PSU Coolermaster 1000 watt modular Case Coolermaster HAF X full tower Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus Hard Drives 120 Gb Samsung 840 Pro SSD
120 Gb Kingston Hyper X SSD
1 Tb WD Caviar Black HDD Internet Speed download 1.5 Mb/sec upload 300Kb/sec |
03 Jan 2013
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Thanks you all replies you really helped, just another question, I formatted this empty drive with Windows and allocated it as D: , should I delete it first (via Disk Managment) in order to install Linux or if I choose this drive during installation , Linux will "take" it automatically and the next time I boot from Windows, I won't see D: anymore? | My System Specs | | Windows 7 and Linux problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:16 AM. | |