| Windows 7: Is it true that they do this? |
01 Oct 2009
|
#1 | | |
Is it true that they do this? Ok so let me start by saying that I am building my own computer from parts that I will be ordering off newegg. The specs of my pc will be something along the lines of a 1tb hard drive, 4gb memory, phenom 2 quad core processor, and all the good stuff you need to make a ballin computer.
Now, on to my question. As you all know, by building my own computer, it will not be coming with an operating system pre installed in it. Well since my mom works at Indiana University, I can get Windows 7 64 bit for real cheap, but if you read here ( IUware Package) it says that you have to already have a previous version of windows installed on your computer to install windows 7. Im not very savvy when it comes to software, so could someone elaborate for me? | My System Specs |
| |
01 Oct 2009
|
#2 | | |
Sounds like it is an upgrade key.
You are supposed to have a qualifying version of windows already.
It says 7 qualifies - you could install 7100RC - with a key ( it's free) and use that. MS are no longer providing the d/l of 7100 - you probably know someone who has one. I believe you can still get the keys - they only gave out 10 - so any one will do. Get it from your friend, or Ixquick for it.
Hard to believe there isn't a way to install on a blank HD - time will tell.
Once you have it installed - make an image and save it somewhere safe - just in case you need to reinstall sometime in the future - put the image back on instead.
Macrium Reflect free is a great free image program. http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp | My System Specs | | OS Vista x64 / 7 X64 CPU E8400 Motherboard ASRock 1333 GLAN R2.0 Memory 2x1 gb 800mhz Graphics Card 9500gt 1gb Case Coolermaster Cooling Winpower 500w Hard Drives Maxtor 160gb-2mb cache |
01 Oct 2009
|
#3 | | Windows 7 x64 HP, Windows 7 HP, Windows 7 Ult Weatherford, Texas |
It is an upgrade. From the Installation Notes (emphasis added): Quote: The DVDs require that a genuine version of Windows (XP, Vista, or 7) is already installed on the computer. They will not install on a blank hard drive. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway, Toshiba Laptop, and Home Brew OS Windows 7 x64 HP, Windows 7 HP, Windows 7 Ult CPU Intel I3, Cerelon, Pentium 4 @ 3Ghz Motherboard Intel, Intel, Asus Memory 8G, 3G, 3G Graphics Card On-board Intel, On-board nVidia, nVIDIA card Sound Card on-board, on-board, SoundBlaster Monitor(s) Displays Hannspree HF237, Toshiba, SyncMaster 931B Screen Resolution default (all) Keyboard standard wired (all) Mouse standard wired (all) PSU 300w, unk, 650w Case black, black, grey Cooling air (all) Hard Drives 1T internal, 320G internal, 160G internal, 1T networked Internet Speed 6M down, 768K up Other Info Home LAN through Linksys hub to 4 port and wireless switch/router. Networked HP 2600n. Wife's computer running Windows 7, and spare laptop running Ubuntu "Karmic Kola" (9.10). |
01 Oct 2009
|
#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit God's green Earth |
Install windows 7 but don't activate it, then upgrade to windows 7..sounds daft i know but that's how it is done. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU AMD Athlon x4 650 3Ghz Motherboard ASUS Memory 4gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3000 series Onboard |
01 Oct 2009
|
#5 | | |
Ok wait so I download a free version of windows seven on the blank harddrive and then upgrade to the version that I buy? | My System Specs | | |
01 Oct 2009
|
#6 | | |
Yes - you may need to activate it - that's why you need the RC 7100 - or any build that will activate with the RC keys.
You used to be able to do as matt suggested - have a feeling you can't do that anymore - unless it is activated.
( I hope you can still do the double install dance Matt mentioned - but there have been persistent rumors to the contrary). | My System Specs | | OS Vista x64 / 7 X64 CPU E8400 Motherboard ASRock 1333 GLAN R2.0 Memory 2x1 gb 800mhz Graphics Card 9500gt 1gb Case Coolermaster Cooling Winpower 500w Hard Drives Maxtor 160gb-2mb cache |
01 Oct 2009
|
#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit God's green Earth |

Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 Yes - you may need to activate it - that's why you need the RC 7100 - or any build that will activate with the RC keys.
You used to be able to do as matt suggested - have a feeling you can't do that anymore - unless it is activated.
( I hope you can still do the double install dance Matt mentioned - but there have been persistent rumors to the contrary). honestly you still can, it's the tip for clean installing an upgrade version of Windows 7! | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU AMD Athlon x4 650 3Ghz Motherboard ASUS Memory 4gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3000 series Onboard |
01 Oct 2009
|
#8 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by matt0978 Install windows 7 but don't activate it, then upgrade to windows 7..sounds daft i know but that's how it is done. MS has indicated that "trick" won't work this time with Windows 7. No one has the upgrade media yet to confirm, but I'd indeed not expect it to work.
You should be able to use the upgrade media coming from the (activated) Release Candidate, which they're still providing free keys for if you have the download itself.
The downside of that technique is if you need to install to a blank drive in the future, they'll no longer be activating the Release Candidate. But it should work for a few more months.
For an upgrade copy of Ultimate for $20 though, it's worth even going out and buying the low level version of XP or Vista if you need to though. It looks like the same people eligible for that deal could get Vista in a non-upgrade version for $20 if I understand correctly, and you could use the upgrade Windows 7 with that whenever you needed. | My System Specs | | |
02 Oct 2009
|
#9 | | Windows 7 7600 1 X64 Lake Buena Vista The Magic Kingdom |

Quote: Originally Posted by funkyfishs Ok wait so I download a free version of windows seven on the blank harddrive and then upgrade to the version that I buy? Funky, from my understanding the RC1 and any further upgrades are no longer available for gratis in anticipation of the first public release in 2 weeks. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 7600 1 X64 CPU AMD PHENOM II X 550 PROCESSOR 3.1 ghz Motherboard ASUS M4A78-TE Memory Corsair 4 gig ddr 3 Graphics Card ati radeon 3300 Sound Card ati hd Monitor(s) Displays syncmaster 2033sw Screen Resolution 1600X900 60 hz refresh PSU antec_550 watt Case cooler master GLite Cooling stock_heat sink Hard Drives twin_seagates SATA's 1 TB & 500 Gig, hitachi_slimline 160 gig Internet Speed 20mbs up/ 1.5mbs down Other Info favorite child "stewie"
favorite dog "brian" |
02 Oct 2009
|
#10 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |

Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 Sounds like it is an upgrade key.
You are supposed to have a qualifying version of windows already.
It says 7 qualifies - you could install 7100RC - with a key ( it's free) and use that. MS are no longer providing the d/l of 7100 - you probably know someone who has one. I believe you can still get the keys - they only gave out 10 - so any one will do. Get it from your friend, or Ixquick for it.
Hard to believe there isn't a way to install on a blank HD - time will tell.
Once you have it installed - make an image and save it somewhere safe - just in case you need to reinstall sometime in the future - put the image back on instead.
Macrium Reflect free is a great free image program. Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download Note if you are doing an UPGRADE you don't actually have to have an "Activated" version of Windows - so you could "borrow" a copy of a qualifying previous version of windows, install the bare minimum, don't activate but just install your upgrade over the top of the old version. -- If you are installing a 64 bit version you'll need VISTA 64 bit version for upgrade, otherwise XB or Vista x-86 will do.
You'll have to do the upgrade immediately however as you might get a message "This copy of Windows must be activated within 3 days (not the normal 30) when you install the previous version of Windows before you do your upgrade.
You can still do a "Clean install" BTW but you still need a previous version of Windows to start the installation process.
(Note -- keep an ISO image copy of the previous version of Windows in case you need to wipe your disk and re-install your Windows 7 upgrade again).
I'm pretty sure that the "Upgrade" process doesn't check for "Activation" or even if the copy of Windows being upgraded came from a torrent -- MS would in any case be quite happy for people to replace torrent / pirate copies with legal ones anyway. I can't check directly since my RTM copy of Windows is a full version obtained via TECHNET subscription. I'm not sure if there are any "Upgrade version only" disks out there to test this yet. If anybody has got an Upgrade only version please try this and post the results.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up Is it true that they do this? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:21 PM. | |